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case be certainly thought that the vigorous portance he meant the strictest impartiality; frame (a laugh) of the hon. Member for Staf- and to that he would appeal again to the fordshire afforded more promise of continued House whether he might not justly lay claim, efficiency than the ill health under which he This was, indeed, no merit to lay claim to. was sorry to observe that the Hon. Charles It was only claimiog the character of an Manners Sutton bad laboured during the last honest man; for it was very difficult to draw session. He should now sit down, but he a distinction betweeu honesty and the strictest would observe, in conclusion, that if bo mem- | impartiality, in filling an office like that in ber should be found on an early occasion to question. Surely it could vot now be suppropose that the vote of the last Parliament | posed that he would suffer a political bias to sbould be rescinded, he would himself propose sway his judicial decisions. For sixteen years a motion, that all that part of the vote of the had he performed the duties of Speaker of the House of Commons by which a retired pen- House of Commons; for sixteen years was it sion of 4,0001. for his own life and of 3,0001. admitted that he had suffered no political for bis son should be conferred on the Right feeling to outweigh his sense of duty; for Hop. Charles Manners Sutton, shall be re- sixteen years he had taken care not to allow pealed.
his perceptions to be dimmed by prejudices; Mr. CHARLES MANNERS SUTTON rose amid and was it credible that be would be so blioded some confusion in the House, and some cries now, as to suffer them to draw their mist over of “ Divide" previously to his rising being his eyes ? Should the House withdraw its generally observed. He spoke for a con- coufidence from him now, he would at least siderable time in a tone so extremely low, have this consolation--that the six successive that he was totally inaudible in the gallery Parliaments in which he had sat as Speaker for a great portion of the commenceinent of of the House of Commous, would be suiticient bis speech. We understood him to express to do him justice. If it should be the pleasure the feelings of embarrassment under which he of the House of Commons to elect the hon. rose on the occasion, and his gratitude for the Member for Staffordshire, whatever assiste kind opinions which had from all parts of the ance in the discharge of his duty sixteen years' House been given of his exertions to perform experience would enable bim (Mr. M. Sutton) the very arduous and most important duries to render bim, should most cheerfully be given of that office in the House of Commons which to him, or to any other member of the House he had filled for sixteen years. Whatever who might be appoiuted. In conclusion, he sentiments he had heard expressed with re-would say, that, notwithstanding his sense of spect to his fitness, in other particulars be his own imperfectious, and of the difficulties of heard po opinion mentioned on any hand un- the task which he wonld have to undertake, favourable to his impartiality; and whatever if it should be the pleasure of the House to other claims his friends might flatter them- re-appoint bim, he would exert himself to the selves that he possessed to the high honour utmost, as he had done before, to discharge of presiding in the House of Commons, to his duty to the House, to the country, and he this, at least, he would lay claim-he would would say, tủ himself also, as an hopest take credit to himself for the strictest impar- man. tiality in his decisions. On this, as on every During his speech, Mr. C. M. Sutton was occasion, he felt it to be his duty to submit seldom distinctly audible, and only detached implicitly to the decision of the House. No portions of his sentences gave any idea of the man could more deeply or more painfully feel purport of his discourse. After he sat down, than he the difficulty of duly performing the there were loud cries of “Question," and arduous duties which he was again willing to Strangers withdraw.” take on himself if it should please the A Member, whose name we could not learn, House to re-appoint him. He knew well, observed, that he considered himself as standbetter than most men, the responsibility ing there as the represeutative of the people of wbich that man must incur in all cases who England, and on their part, he thought it his cousents to fill that chair. Proud and grate- duty to call upon Ministers for some explanaful as he was for the compliments which had tiun respecting the intentions with regard to been so liberally bestowed upon him from all the continuance of the pension of 4,0001. to quarters of the House, he could not be so far Mr. C. M. Sutton, in the event of his re-elecled away by them as to imagine that the tion. He thought it extremely desirable, inHouse of Commons could not easily fiod deed absolutely necessary, to have that ques. among their members a better occupant of tion answered before they should proceed to a that distinguished seat. As to capacity and division. Admitting that the right hou. Genfitness, he would lay claim to but a very mo- tleman is possessed of all the qualities which derate. share; but be at least possessed long are requisite in the man who is to fill the experience. He would again, however, obey chair, although he should be sorry to vote the commands of the House, if it sbould be its against bim, he could not vote for his again pleasure again to impose them upon him. obtaining an office hy which he would receive Among the qualifications which every man 6,0001. a year in addition to the pension of ought to bring when he ventured to occupy 4,0001. before granied him. An opportunity the Speaker's chair, that which he had before of settling this point had already heen afforded, mentioned was certainly of paramount im- and he was surprised that it had not been
more early taken advantage of. It would be motion, would decide its own character with more to the credit of the Governmeot, of the the people. He must, therefore, oppose the House, and of the right hon. Gentleman him- motion. self; it would, above all, be more satisfactory Mr. FAITHFUL said, that he came down to to the people of England, if that explanation the House prepared to support the proposition should be given before they came to a decision for appointing the right bon. Gentleman -if the question were at once answered, whe- Speaker of that House; but what he bad ther it is or not intended that the Right Hon. I since heard, restrained him from immediately Charles Sutton, if re-appointed Speaker of the giving his countenance to that appointment House of Commons, should hold or should it was undoubtedly true that the right hod. pot hold the pension of 4,0001. iu addition to Gentleman had bimself stated, that if he were his salary as Speaker?
re-elected, he had no iotention of availing Mr. C. M SÜTron said he would answer the himself of the act, by which a pension bad question of the honourable Member in one been granted to him. But it must strike every short septeoce. He conceived that according one, that a question of this great importance to the law of England, and according to the ought to be determined upon grounds abo intention of the legislature in the Act of Par- stracted from individual considerations; and liament in question, the person holding the ought not to be left to the decision of the office of Speaker of the House of Commons acceptance or non-acceptance of any single could not receive one shilling of the pension person. He begged, therefore, to ask any of spoken of so often. That, be added, was his Majesty's Ministers who were present, his firm belief with respect to the law on this whether, in the event of Mr. Manners Sutton point, and that was bis conviction with re being re-elected to the chair of that House, spect to the intention of the legislature ; but they were prepared, immediately after his rewhatever might actually be the law, or what election, to bring in a bill for the express ever the intestion of the legislature might be purpose of repealing the existing act, by which supposed to be, it was his firm determination la pension was conferred on the right hon. if re-elected to the chair, uot to receive one Gentleman. If his Majesty's Ministers would shilling of the pension while he continued in vot pledge themselves to the productiou of the office. (Cheers).
such a bill, he should not feel justified in the Major beauclekk (as we understood), discharge of his parliamentary duty, in relyafter apologising as a new member, was pro-ing on the mere assurance of an individual. ceeding to address the House, and to propose Sir FRANCIS BURDETT repeated bis firm a resolution, for reducing the salary of the conviction, that there was no man, without Speaker from 6,0001. to 4,0001. a year, but sat exception, in tbat House, who could be put in down on being informed that it was not then competition with the right hon. Gentleman the time for discussing such a resolution. now proposed to fill the chair, in all those
The gallery was then cleared for a division, qualities which were so necessary to the diswbep there appeared.
charge of the high and important duties atFor Mr. M. C. Sutton.
241 tached to the office. To ihose honourable For Mr. Littleton
31 members who had objected on the ground of Majority
--210 the retiring pension which had been conferred On our return to the gallery, the question upon the right hon. Gentleman, Mivisters and having, we presume, in the mean time been explained the opinion which they entertained put, that the Right Houourable Charles Man of the act of Parliament in question. But the Ders Sutton be appointed Speaker of that opposition which was made to the re-appointHouse, we found
ment of Mr. Manners Sutton by those wbo Mr. COBBETT on his legs, but the noise oc- were the advocates of public economy, was the casivned by the rush of strangers was sncb, most extraordivary, and exhibited he strangest that for some time we were unable to collect view of the case conceivable: for how was it any of the hon. Member's remarks. When possible that any saving could be effected for we did, he was commenting on the enormous the public, unless by the re-appointment of salary, and the other great pecuniary advau. the right hon. Gentleman ? The argument of tages enjoyed by the Speaker of the House of ecopomy, therefore, which in such an import Commons; and asking why an individual ant case, however, was only of a straw's who was willing to take so large a sum from weight, was directly opposed to the opinion the people, should be the person selected to of the economists ; as the only ineans of makpreside over the deliberatious of the represen- ing a public saving, was to re-appoint Mr. tatives of the people. was a saying of Manners Sutton to the chair. If the act by farmers," as is the sample, such is the sack." which the pension had been conferred on that What sack could be expected, if such a sam- right hon. Gentleman was as binding as it had ple as this of dealing with the pockets of the heen alleged to be by the hon. Member for people were tolerated by those who ought to Oldham, aod other honourable members, un. be the representatives of that people? if Mr. doubtedly it could not be repealed without the Maoners Sutton were rechosen to fill the right hou. Geutleman's consent. But that chair of that House, he would be considered consent he had understood the right hon. Genby the country as a sample of the House itself
. tleman was disposed to give. Let it be recolThe House, therefore, by its own vote on this lected that the pension had beeu already,
earned. He (Sir Francis Burdett) was per- ment was dissolved, the salary ceased. The snaded, that the people at large would not objection of the bon. Meniber for Brighton to think that the right hou. Gentleman bad been the appointment of an individual to the chair overpaid for his eminent services. He should of that House, who was a pensioner of the very much like to see any one of those who Crowu, appeared to him (Mr. Hume) to be a thought that the duties of the Speaker of the most sound one. The right hon. Gentleman, House of Commons might be more cheaply if be were appointed, would know that be purchased, and that that officer was overpaid, I could at any time revert to his pension of placed for a time in the chair, in order to 4,0001. No declaration of his, or of any other ascertain whether with half the salary, or with person tu the contrary, could alter an act of a quarter of the salary, or with no salary at Parliament. The money would be recoverable all, the public would be so well served, or so io a court of law. They were now, therefore, well satisfied, as when the deliberations of the about to elect, as the Speaker of that House, House had been under the direction of the a pensioner of state, who was independent of accomplished individual in questivo.
the people. Against the principle of such an Mr. WARBURTON observed, that the ques- appointment he must pro'est; and be repeated, tion, whether in the present instance the right that he thought the hon. Member for Brighton hon. Gentleman, if re-elected, would draw quite right in asking his Majesty's Ministers pot only his salary as Speaker, but the pen- whether, in the event of the election of Mr. sion guaranteed to him by an Act of Parlia- Manners Sutton, they would bring in a bill ment, bad been decided by the declaration of to repeal the act by which the pension had the right hon. Geutleman), that even if the Act been granted, and thereby leave that right would allow him to accept the pension, be hon. Gentlemao to depend, as he had before would not accept it. But the much greater done, upon his good conduct for final reward. questiva was the dangerous precedent of vot. If he (Mr. Hume) could have anticipated ing a pension to the Speaker of that House wbat had now taken place, he would have before his final retirement froin the chair. If endeavoured, as far as he could, to prevent this precedent were established, what was to the last Parliament from granting the pension preveut any future minister from proposing in questivu. to vote a pension to a Speaker, after a long The ATTORNEY-General coutended, that service, but before he left the chair of that the act by which the pension was conHouse ? Nothing could be more dangerous ferred, had not the effect attributed to it. Mr. than such a precedent. Although he was Manners Sutton was not entitled to the benequite sure that the right hon. Gentleman's fits of that act until all his functions of conduct in the chair would not vary one tittle Speaker had ceased. Now it was well known, in consequence of the pension which had as his puble Friend had remarked, that if the been voted to him, yet, as he strongly felt the demise of the Crown had taken place within dauger that would attend any precedent of the last four-and-tweuty hours, the old Parthat kind, he hoped the Act by which that liament must have re-assembled, with their pension had been conferred would be re- Speaker in the chair. It was impossible, therepealed.
fore, to contend, that the old Parliament had The Solicitor-General observed, that, on entirely expired until within the last few hours legal grounds, the Speaker could not receive If not ihe Parliament, then not the Speaker. bis pension of 4,0001. wbile be was receiving, Now the act conferring the pension provided or entitled to receive, his salary of 6,0001. that no payment should be made uutil the Now, on a dissolution, while the functions of quarter-day after Mr. Manners Sutton had the Speaker ceased for some purposes, they ceased to be Speaker. No such quarter-day continued for other purposes until a new had occurred. If Mr. Manners Sutton bad Speaker was elected. For the purpose of re: beeu receiving his salary as Speaker, he could ceiving salary as Speaker they continued, and not be also receiving his peosion, to which he therefore he could not also receive the retiring became entitled only when he ceased to be pension.
Speaker. The act did nut specify any partiMr. O'Connell allowed that the hon, and cular time, but only generally when he should learned Gentleman's conclusions were good if cease to hold the office. his premises were well founded. But was it Mr. Hume wished to know whether the right
possible that a Parliament could be dissolved hon Gentleman had been receiviog the salary with the exception of a single individual ? or the pension ? Conld there be a perpetual Speaker, although The Attorney-GENERAL observed that that there was no Parliament ?
was a question of fact, which it did not belong Lord ALTHORP observed, that in the event to his office to answer. He believed, howof the demise of the Crown before the meeting ever, that the right hon. Gentleman had never of a new Parliament, the old Parliament :nust received any portion of his pension. If, re-assemble, with its Speaker at its head. indeed, the right hon. Gentleman had ceased
Mr. Humé wished to know if an instance to be Speaker at the dissolution, then the had ever occurred of a salary having been quarter day on which he was entitled to repaid to a Speaker after the dissolution of a ceive a payment of his pension had occurred. Parliament? For bis own part, he was satis. But he (the Attorney General) believed that fied, thiat, from the time at which the Parlia- the peusion had not been considered due, and that the right hon, Gentleman had not re-, tained political opinions different from those of ceived any payment of it.
the right hon. Gentleman, be had never found A Member (whose name we could not learn) that difference influencing the right hon. opposed the re-appointment of Mr. Manners Gentleman's conduct in the chair. Tbe Sutton to the chair, on the ground (as we noble Lord concluded by moving, that at its understood the honourable Gentleman) that rising the House should adjourn to Thursday. he was a Tory, proposed by a Whig adminis, At six o'cluck the House adjourued to tration.
Thursday. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL quoted one of the provisions of the Act for regulating the office of Speaker of the House of Commons, which LIST OF THE MINORITY OF THIRTY. declared that he should be Speaker until an- ONE (as correctly as the same could be other Speaker was chosen. Until another
procured) who voted that E. L. Littleton, Speaker was chosen, therefore, the right hon. the member for Staffordshire, should take Gentleman bad no right to the annuity which the chair of the House. iostead of the Right had been conferred on him.
Hon. Charles Manvers Sutton.-(Majority of The question “ That the right hon. Charles
241.) Mavners Sutton do take the chair as Speaker (From the Morning Chronicle of the 30. Jan.) of this House was then put by the clerk, Baldwiu, Dr. H., Crk City and agreed to.
Beauclerk, Major A. W., Surrey East Mr. Sutton was conducted to the chair by Bowes, Lord Morpeth and Sir Francis Burdett. The Bulwer, E. L., Lincoln City right hon. Gentleman immediately addressed Butler, Hon. P., Kilkenny the House to the following effect :-"I am Cobbett, William, Oldham deeply grateful to the House for the bigla
Dyke, F.L. B., Cockermouth, honour which they have just conferred upon Ewart, William, Liverpool me. I bave now only to express my hope that, Faithful, G., Brighton by a constant attention to the rights and privi- Fielden, W.J., Oldham leges of the House, by a strict adherence to
Grote, George, London those rules and orders by which alone our Gaskell, Daniel, Wakefield deliberations can be advantageously con: Hume, Joseph, Middlesex ducted, by the utmost courtesy to every indi- Hutt, William, Hull vidual Member of the House, by readily Kinloch, George, Dundee affording every information which it may be Lynch, A. H., Galway in my power!o communicate, and by doing all Lloyd, J. H., Stockport I can to facilitate the transaction of public Neagle, Sir R., Westmeath and private business, I may be so fortunate as O'Connell, Daniel, Dublin City to experience from the present Parliament O'Connell, Maurice, Meath County the same confidence which I was so fortunate
O'Connell, Morgan, Tralee as to experience from the six Parliaments
O'Connell, John, Youghall which have preceded it.” (Hear, hear, bear). Potter, Richard, Wigan
Lord ALTHORP said, that in rising to con- Roebuck, 1. A., Bath gratulate the right bon. Gentleman, and to Roe, James, Cashell congratulate the House on what had just taken
Roche, William, Limerick City place, he could not but advert with the great.. Romilly, John, Bridport est satisfaction to the fact, that during the Sutton, Right Hon. C.M., Cambridge previous discussion there was not one hon. University member who had spwken, and who, like him. Strutt, Edward, Derby self, bad bad experience of the right bon: Vigors, N. A., Carlow Gentleman's great qualities, who had not
TELLER, borne bis warm testiinony to them. With re- Warburton, Henry, Bridport spect to what had fallen from one hou. Member, of the political tendencies of the right bon. Gentleman, his (Lord Althorp?s) expe.
(From the Morning Chronicle of 31. Jan.) rience justified him in assuring that hin. TO THE EDITOR OF THE MORNING Gentleman, and all those hon. Gentlemen
CHRONICLE. who were new to the House, that that ten. Ibbotson's Holel, Vere Street, Jun. 30. dency never exhibited itself in the right hon. SIR,- heg leave to observe to you, that in Gentleman's conduct in the chair. For much the List published in your journal of this the greater portion of the time during which morning, of the minority who voted yesterday he (Lord Alihorp) had had the honour of a for the appointment of Mr. LITTLETON to the seat in that House, he had differed from the office of Speaker, you have omitted wiy name. opinion of tbe majority ; but at that period he It is a matter of very little importance. I write had been treated with just as much courtesy under the supposition that you may wish to by the right bon. Gentleman, and bad re- have your list correct. ceived just as much parliamentary assistance
I have tue honour to be, from him as since he had sat on the ministe.
your obedient servant, rial side of the House. Although he enter
CAROLINIAN RESISTANCE And whereas, the Legislature of South Ca. OF TAXATION.
rolina now in session, taking into considera
tion the matters cuntained in the said proI FERE insert the proclamation of clamation of the President, have adopted a Governor HAYNB, the Governor of preamble aud resolutiou to the following efSouth Carolina, in which he combats fect, viz.:the proclamation of President Jackson, States hath issued bis proclamation deuouoc
“Whereas, the President of the United which I inserted in the last Register. ing the proceedings of this state, calling upon All the documents connected with this the citizens thereof to renounce tbeir primary matter are of the greatest possible in- allegiauce, and threateving them with militerest, not merely in America, but here tary coercion, unwarranted by the coustitu.
tion, and utterly incousistent with the exista too; and the question now in dispute
ence of a free state, be it, therefore, pot only involves that of the constitu- “ Resolved, That his Excelleucy the Gover. tion of America and of her separate nor be requested forth with, to issue his prostates, but it is a practical illustration of clamation, waruiug the good people of this the rights which in every free country the United States to seduce them from their alreside somewhere to resist oppressive legiance, exhorting them to disregard his voin taxation. The young men above all menaces, and to be prepared to sustain the should read and study these documents, diguity, and protect the liberty of the state and I refer them, and indeed all men, to against the abitrary measures proposed by the my two letters to the Earl of Radnor,
Now I, Robert Y. Hayne, Governor of South contained in the last Register and the Carolina, in obedience to the said resolution, number preceiling, for a clear state- do hereby issue this my proclamation, soment of the case of the South Caro- lemnly warning the good people of this state linians. I have in these letters shown promulgated in the said proclamation of the
against the dangerous and pernicious doctrine why it is that the southern states have President, as calculated to mislead their judgto complain of the northern ones; I ments as to the true character of the Governhave stated their case, and I recommend ment under which they live, and the para,
mount obligation which they owe to the state, those who wish to understand this and manifestly intended to seduce them from matter, to read over again those two their allegiance, aud by drawing them to the letters. They will then find them- support of the violent and unlawful measures selves capable of comprehending those contemplated by the President, to involve proclamations ; what led to the hard-estly admonish them to beware of the specious
them in the guilt of rebellion. I would earnship of which the southern states com- but false doctrives by which it is now aitemptplain, what the complaint is, and howed to be shown that the several states have it affects both them and us. It is un
not retained their entice sovereignty; that equal burdens, unequal taxation, of ferred, in the first instance, to the Govern
“ the allegiance of their citizens was trans which these states complain ; and they meat of the United States ; " that " are now showing us that a free and cannot be said to be sovereigu and indespirited people will not feel this injus- pendent whose citizens owe obedience to laws tice without open resistance. I have not made by it;" that “even under the
royal Goveromeut we had no separate chanot room this week to make any como racter;" that the constitution bas ertated“ a mentary upon these papers, but I can- bational Government,” which is not“ a comnot conclude even these few observa- pact between suvereign states"_" that the tions without again exhorting every that ours is a national Government in which
state has no right to secede" - in a word, reader of mine to read them with great the people of all the states is represented, and attention, and to read over again my by which we are constituted “one peuple" letters to my Lord RADNOR,
and " that our representatives in Congress are all representatives of the United States,
and not of the particular states from which PROCLAMATION BY THE GOVERNOR they come”-ductrines which uproot the very OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
foundation of our political system, annihilate WHERBAS, the President of the United, the rights of the states, and utterly destroy States has issued bis proclamation concerving the liberties of the citizens: it requires no reaan " Ordinance of the people of South Caro- soning to show, what the bare statement of lina, to nullify certain acts of the Congress of those propositions demonstrate, that such a the United States," laying duties and imposts Government as is here described, has not a for the protection of domestic manufactures; single feature of a confederated republic. It is