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ing; and it was a matter of the Lord Grenville opposed the mos highest importance, that its safety tion, because he thought the noble and protection should no longer be earl had not founded bis objections left in the hands of a man wbo had upon facts. He warmly vindicated shown himself so totally incapable bis friend, the first lord of the treain every respect, except in the arts sury, respecting the measures of of deception. His lordship, after which he stood accused; he was adverting to the neglect and ill confident the neglect and failure of treatment given by ministers to any of them was attributable only wards brave veterans who had dig. to those errors to which buman natinguished themselves by valour and ture was at all times liable; to those patriotism, as the late lord Rodney, accidents which no human pru. lord Howe, and sir Charles Grey,. dence could prevent; or to those spoke of the recal of earl Fitzwil dispensations of Providence which liam, which he said could only be no human wisdom could controul. mentioned in the strongest terms of The public cause was said to be indisapprobation. A language had jured by removing some officers frequently been used, he remarked, from the public service to make room tending to throw an odium on all for others more serviceable to priwho spoke freely on the state of afvate views. Gallant officers it was fairs, insinuating that they were affirmed had been neglected; but, friends to commotion and to French without entering into the invidious principles : his lordship reprobated task of scanning deserts, his lordsuch insinuations with severity; ship begged to remark, that admisasked how it was possible any one ral Rodney had received the peercould suppose he could be so lost to age he so well deserved, besides all sense of honour, to the reve- . certain pecuniary grants, sufficient, rence and respect he owed to a with economy and management, long line of ancestry, to the pater- not only to have secured the 'posnal affection he had for his present sessor from inconvenience, but children, and the regard due to pos- to have supported his title with terity, as to countenance principles becoming splendour. If occawhich might be subversive of those sions occurred when his majesty honours and, that rank which he had found it difficult to employ all received, and was bound to trans- the talents, ardour, and activity of mit? Such an argument was ab- individuals, according to their zeal sard—but it also deserved public and merit, it was imputable to the refutation; it was unfair, uncandid, vast fund of abilities and energy and untrue. After more observa- in the nation, which rendered it tions of this nature, his lordship perplexing where to make a preferdeclared he considered it as his ence. duty to himself, his family, his king, He then came to the consideraand his country, to move, “ that tion of the conduct of the war. an address might be presented to That the allies had not beep as suchis majesty, humbly requesting him cessful as they expected, he was to dismiss from his councils his ready to admit, and also that such minister, the first lord of the trea- accidents had happened as were insury, whose pernicious measures cidental to all wars; but he hoped had deprived him of the contidence all parties would acknowledge that of the country."

the exertions of this country had been unparalleled in the page of his. taph upon the infatuation of minitory, and had been attended with sters, ind, in the language applied unparalleled success; our naval to the memory of sir Christopher victories had been more brilliant Wren, by pointing out his sublime than ever before distinguished any production, that astonishing piece of age, and it appeared peculiariy hard architecture, the cathedral of St. that all the honour, all the praise, Paul, he might exclaim and all the glory should be reaped by individuals, whilst all the censure


“Si monumentum quæris, circumspice." and all the responsibility were The marquis of Townshend and thrown on ministers,

the earl of Warwick opposed the Lord Hay (earl of Kinnoul) said motion. The latter said he was that Le never was more surprised convinced there was a consider. than to hear a motion of this im- able faction deeply infected with portant naturem-no less than for re- French principles in this counmoving the prime-minister of the try, and it wils not impossible that country from his high station, a part were to be found within willlout one single proof of miscon- the walls of the two houses of parduct whatever brought against him. liament. He would advise noble He praised the conduct of the war, lords not to indulge themselves in and gloried in the successes. He those irritating and intemperate therefore gave the motion his de expressions which too frequently cided negative, and only observed were uttered. He was sorry to read further, that lord Rodney's family such language had passed in another were perfectly satisfied with his re- ' house for granting the people all muneration.

they asked. He was for granting all Lord Suffolk desired to retract such rights as were demanded in a part of what he had said relative constitucional manner, but not to to admiral Rodney; he believed the those who demanded them with pension had been rightly stated by arms in their hands. the noble lord ; still, however, it The earl of Derby expressed his was certain that this brave officer astonishment that any advice should was afterwards, from a variety of . be thonght necessary for their lord. law-suits, reduced to a state of ships respecting the language they great poverty, and his body for a ought to use in that house; for him. considerable time seized upon, and self, lie always endeavoured to use denied the rites of burial

parliamentary language, and was The duke of Norfolk scrupled not conscious of any failure in this not to condemn the measures of ad-' point. He was apt indeed to speak ministration, which, he contended, warmly, and it was his duty to do only required to be fairly and cri. so, when he described the miscontically examined to be univer- duct or incapacity of ministers, and silly reprobated. The noble lord the pernicious effects of had mea(Grenville) had insinuated that the sures. Allusions were made to what charges were not substantiated passed in another house, and disapupon facts; and demanded proofs : probation manifested on granting the proofs were every where : they rights to men with arms in their presented themselves to every eye; hands. He hoped they had not yet they made impressions upon every procured those arms, and that they beart; they composed a living epi. never would ; but if it ever should

be be the case, he was convinced the plorable condition, and they could impolitic and oppressive measures not too soon be deprived of the adopted by the present ministers power of continuing to do so : the would be the occasion of those dis- war had been conducted, he said, astrous consequences.

in a shameful manner ; the wealth Lord Romney said he was con- and resources of the country ex. cerned to hear persons on all sides, pended in making conquests of di. both within and wit out the walls stant settlements, when the French of that house, talk of the situation should have been attacked nearer of the country in the most despond. home. His lordship applauded ing manner; for his own part, he the plan of lord Romney, and did thought very differently of it, and not doubt but it might produce a that nothing was wanting to re. considerable sum of money; but it store it to its former strength but was a question how far the house of active energy. He was clear that commons might approve of money a plan might be adopted which being raised to carry on the war would raise an immense sum, and through any channel but their own. would serve to convince the enemy He concluded with giving his of the British spirit : this was, hearty assent to the motion. to set on foot a subscription for a The earl of Carlisle lamented, voluntary gift, as far as the genero- that the finest opportunity of for. sity and circumstances of indivi. cing the enemy to make peace had duals would allow. He would sub. been lost by the conduct of the scribe five thousand pounds, and admiralty, which had given such thought there would easily be found absurd orders to admiral Colpoys. a hundred thousand who would Had we destroyed the Brest fleet, subscribe their one hundred each. we should have ended the war. He proposed that this should be The marquis of Lansdowne paid by instalments, for instance he blamed the admiralty on this occa. would commence on the Ist of Ja. sion also. He said he would sooner nuary 1798, and pay five hundred see one minister justly punished than pounas a month, so that in ten see twenty changes. It was not a months he should have paid the change of men but measures which whole. Each subscriber to do the he wished, consequently did not same, according to the sums sube approve the motion : changes of scribed, even so low as fifty: the ministers had sometimes done miswhole of the money to be subject to chief to the country. Sir Robert the control of parliament.-Such Walpole was removed by popular a measure, if carried into execution, clamour at the time he was carry. would counteract any impression ing the sinking fund into execution, which might be made on the French and the nation suffered very consigovernment to our disadvantage, derably by his removal. The al. by the desponding ideas of some as teration he proposed would be in to our state, or by the language of the system of government, which others as to the mismaragement of ought to be conducted on the old our ministers,

constitutional principles of the The earl of Moira thought the country. Any one who wished present motion highly necessary: to know the present system, the mismanagement of mii.isters might peruse the army extraordihad brought us to this present de- naries, and he would find millions


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country be asked if they having recommended a change of 4 persevere in the war for such government; he only desired the

pject. Was it for any terric present should be c:anged into a coral possession! Had the French constitutional system, and he would insulted us? If they had, he would contend for this point, though he De one, and he was assured the na. was well aware it had been the cuistion unanimously would unite in ob- tom for ministers to insinuate that taining reparation. . . those who recommended it were.

Lord Grenville again arose. He Jacobins. He reprobated Jacobin observed that of late ministers had principles, because he was convinced declined sending troops to the con- they went to a community of goods, tinent: they had turned all their at- and other absurd and pernicious tention to the navy and colonies; doctrines, even beyond the agrarian and though they had been so s!ic law. He did not believe there were cessful, still they were blamed. The many of such principles in England, noble marquis had affirmed, that it and he knew of no such practical was not a change of men but of Jacolins as his majesty's ministers; measures, which was desirable: to they had banished gold and silver which he replied, that any change from London at the time they be19 our government would throw gan to be plenty in Paris; they kad the country into immediate contu. taken up the paper-system at the sion. Had not ministers preserved time France had laid it down. at from French principles; and was forced loans, military force, and this a small advantage? But why every Jacobin project had been Wis the war carried on? It was adopted here, as France liad rejectnot for this or that province; it ed them. The immortal jury of Fas, whether the French should pos- 1794 had sufficiently exposed the sess the whole of the maritime coast falshood of Jacobin pretended plots. of the continent : another reason To, the noble conduct of that jury wils, the haughty manner in which he did not know how many of their they had rejected our overtures for lordships were now indebted for peace. No minister had ever been their lives and fortunes; it was more ignominiously treated than that jury which defeated the Robeours. Professions of unanimity had spierrian system, attempted to be often been heard in that house, if established in this country by the the country were to be insulted; ministers. ba: they never were made good, The duke of Bedford professedly When the occasion occurred. His wisted, he said, both for a change bordship ended with condemning of ministers, of the system on which the language of despondence, and government had been conducted, "aunting the abundance of our re- and, he might say, for the restora

tion of the constitution. His grace the marquis of Lansdowne an- quoted the papers on the table to ted, thar it was not extraordi- show the concealment ministers had

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made of the public expenses to principle by which their governors enable them to prosecute the war. had been guided : sometimes we He asked if the way to destroy were said to fight for one purpose, French principles, was to ruin the sometimes for another, and still we country? He did not think they were in the dark! The cause of the were so fascinating as to be dread. wa: in January 1794 was "ibe ed. The reason fece was not re- restoration of monarcby in France." stored, truly was, because it could That form of government appeared not be made but on terms disgrace. So necessary for the welfare and in. ful to those ministers who had held terests of this country, that it was such lofty larguage during the war. held out as a sufficient reason for all His grace then took a view of the the expenses we might incur, and enormous taxes, and sirenuously the calamities likely to attend it, supported the motion.

This cause, however, did not long For it 16-Agailist it 86. remain : events of the most melan• May 19th, alderman Combe rose choly nature rendered such ground to make his promised motion for no longer tenable; it was found the dismi-sal of his trajesty's mini. necessary to choose a new one; and sters. lle prefaced his peech with the most ostensible excuse and justie great diffidence, and, with a deep fication of ministers was, “indemconsciousness of inability, undere nity for the past, and security for the took the discussion of so important future.” This in its turn was given a subje:t.

up, and then we were bound to fight It was, he said, the general opic till France was settled into some rion of the people of this country, stable government, capable of as well as that of his constituents, «m lintaining the relations of pe ce and that the c?lamities which pressed so amiiy.” Atier that event took place, hard upon the people were in a we were assured ministers would great measure, if not wholly, owing seize the earliest opportunity of ne. to the ministers having plunged us gotiating; and in December 1795, into the present war. He would a sort of overture was made through not deny that at the commence the medium of Mr. Wickham, the ment it appeared to be popular, but success of which was too well known it long had ceased to be so, and now to render recapitulation necessary, thing had so contributed to pro. Since that time the war had conduce this effect as the incapacity tinued with every possible degree of those who had carried it on. By of misfo:ture and disaster to us and ministers it had been declared to be our allies. We now were lefi inboth just and necessary; in both devd alone in the contest, and the these points he had always differed disresses of the country had arrived from them: but, even allowing that at such a pitch, as to render peace it was so, it was reasonable to ex- essential; it remained now only to pect that the public should have be considered whether the present been informied of the real or osten- ministers, who had so rashly preci. sible ground on which it had been pitated the country into the war, entered into ; and surely in a con- and had manifested such incapa. test between two great nations no. city in the conduct of it, were likely thing less could have been expected. to be more successful in obtaining In vain, however, hud the people that desirable blessing, tranquillity. sought for some fixed and settled He was perfectly of opinion with

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