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to introduce a few words in addition to a that the Chester and Holyhead Railway clause which would have the effect of doing could not complete their part of it till their away with certain ecclesiastical jurisdic. own arrangements had been concluded with tions. The proper course was for the right the London and North Western Company. rev. Prelate to introduce a Bill to abolish There was no objection to lay the contract exempt jurisdictions, and he was not pre- on the table. With regard to the details pared to say that he should oppose it. “As alluded to by the noble Marquess, he had it was, he lioped, the House would support to say, that two special trains would start bim in keeping this Bill as it stood. each way every day except Sunday. One

The Bishop of DOWN said, that the would start from Euston Square at 8.30 in Bill did interfere with certain vested rights, the evening, reaching its destination in a whereas his Amendment only gave the maximum of eleven hours ; and another Bishop his legitimate jurisdiction. How- at half past seven in the morning. Owing ever, he would not give their Lordships to the great speed of these trains it might be the trouble to divide.

necessary to moderate the number of carLORD REDESDALE said, he had as riages they contained, in order to preserve strong an objection as the right rev. Pre- a proper weight. As to better accommodalate to exempt jurisdictions, but he objected tion for landing and embarking at Kingsto the Amendment, which did not refer to town, he had made inquiry on the subject. the Report.

That matter did not rest with the Post Amendment negatived.

Office, but with the Board of Works in Amendments made.

Dublin, as far as Ireland was concerned ; The Report thereof to be received on and he was informed that arrangements Friday next.

would be made, and the landing place

completed, in about three months. At MAIL COMMUNICATION WITH IRELAND. Holyhead the matter rested with the AdQUESTION.

miralty, and he was informed that the THE MARQUESS OF CLANRICARDE necessary arrangements would be combegged to ask the Postmaster General pleted in the present year. Whether he will lay upon the Table of

House adjourned at a quarter-past the House the Contract lately made by

Six o'clock, till To-morrow, the Government with Railway and Steam

half-past Ten o'clock. Packet Companies for the Acceleration of the Irish Mails ; and whether any Steps have been taken to obtain better Accom

HOUSE OF COMMONS, modation for landing and embarking pas. sengers at Kingstown and at Holyhead? Monday, March 7, 1859. He said that his notice was given, and he

MINUTES.] PUBLIC Bills.—1° Mutiny ; Marine asked the question on the assumption that

Mutiny; Affidavits by Commission, &c. the contract to which he referred had been 20 East India Loan ; Remission of Penalties. signed. If so, it was desirable that it 3° Manor Courts, &c. (Ireland). should be known what the details were. It had been stated that the carriages attached

EXCISABLE LIQUORS (SCOTLAND). to the express mail trains were too limited for the accommodation required, and it was

LORD CLAUD HAMILTON appeared a point to which attention should be direct at the Bar with Her Majesty's Answer ed. There was another matter with re- to the Address for the appointment of a gard to which he hoped something would Royal Commission to inquire into the Laws be done, and that was with respect to regulating the Sale of Excisable Liquors affording better accommodation for landing in Scotland. and embarking passengers, especially at

I have received your Address praying Kingstown. There was a great want of accommodation there which could be easily that a Royal Commission may be appointremedied at a small expense and in a short ed to Inquire into the Laws regulating the time.

Sale and Consumption of Excisable Liquors LORD COLCHESTER said, that he had

in Scotland : to state that the contract which had been so long pending was signed and sealed on

And I have given directions that a Royal the 3rd of January. It would have been commission shall issue for the purpose completed sooner but for the circumstance which you have requested.

ANSWER TO ADDRESS.

QUESTION

CONSERVATORY AT KEW.

MR. WALPOLE said, that there was a QUESTION.

Notice in bis name relative to a Bill for MR. DILLWYN said, he considered that regulating Beer- Houses and preventing the public appreciation of the Royal Gar- disorderly conduct in other places of Pub

lic Resort. dens at Kew was fully shown by the fact

He should not now bring it on that 400.000 persons visited the Gardens himself ; but the Secretary of State (Mr. during the past year.

He would ask the S. Estcourt) who had undertaken the task, First Commissioner of Works whether it concurred with him on the subject. is his intention in the next Estimates to make provision for the erection of a new

BATTLE OF CALPEE.
Conservatory at the Royal Gardens at
Kew,
LORD JOHN MANNERS said, the sub-

GENERAL BUCKLEY said, he would beg ject was at the present time under the to ask the Secretary of State for India consideration of Her Majesty's Govern. whether Sir Ilugh Rose, in his Despatch ment; but until they were in possession relative to the Battle of Calpee, had made of the architect's design he could not say particular mention of the gallant conduct whether the cost of the construction of the of the Camel Corps on that occasion ; and Conservatory would be an item in the Esti- whether a Clasp would be given for that mates of the current year.

Action ?

LORD STANLEY said, that on inquiry KINGSTOWN HARBOUR.

he found that the Despatch alluded to by

the bon. and gallant Member had not QUESTION.

reached this country. It appeared to have MR. VANCE said, he rose to ask Mr. been lost on its way from head quarters at Chancellor of the Excliequer if it be the Bombay. As he had not seen it, he of intention of the Government to introduce course could say nothing as to its contents. any general or special measure this Session He had written to India for a duplicate of which will relieve the Foreign trade of it, if possible. With reference to the Dublin from the imposts now levied on it latter part of the Question he had to state exclusively for the Harbour of Refuge at that it was not intended to give a separate Kingstown.

clasp for the battle of Calpee. THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCIEQUER replied, that it was not the intention of the Government to introduce any

OFFICERS IN THE MEDITERRANEAN. measure on the subject, nor could the Go

QUESTION. vernment admit that the imposts were

MAJOR STUART KNOX' said, he wished levied exclusively for the Harbour at to ask the Secretary of State for War the Kingstown. There was nothing in the case different from the circumstances dis- terranean are not entitled to the same ac

reason why Officers serving in the Medicussed last year ; but there were cases commodation (in the way of Quarters or brought under the consideration of the

allowance for the same) as Officers in the Board of Trade and the Irish Board of United Kingdom, and whether it is his inWorks which showed the existence of ano.

tention to remedy this? malies in the present arrangements con

GENERAL PEEL replied that the Officers nected with Dublin Harbour which might serving in the Mediterranean were entitled require revision. The subject was now

to receive, and did receive, the same acunder the consideration of Governinent.

commodation in Barracks as Officers in the BEER-HOUSES AND PLACES OF PUBLIC

United Kingdom, but when they could not

be accommodated in Barracks, they reRESORT.-QUESTION. MR. NICOLL said, he wished to ask the rate was fixed by the Treasury in 1851, on

ceived a pecuniary allowance instead. The Under Secretary for the flome Department the representation of a Board of Officers. if it is the intention of Government before Easter to bring in a Bill to amend the Law in respect to Beer- Houses and places of

HIGIIWAYS BILL-QUESTION. public entertainment.

MR. T. DUNCOMBE said, he wished MR. HARDY replied that it was the in- to know if the Government had any objectention of the Government to bring in a tion to go into Committee on the Highways Bill on the subject.

Bill, pro forma, for the purpose of reprintto introduce a few words in addition to a | that the Chester and Holyhead Railway clause which would have the effect of doing could not complete their part of it till their away with certain ecclesiastical jurisdic. own arrangements had been concluded with tions. The proper course was for the right the London and North Western Company. rev. Prelate to introduce a Bill to abolish There was no ohjection to lay the contract exempt jurisdictions, and he was not pre- on the table. With regard to the details pared to say that he should oppose it. “As alluded to by the noble Marquess, he had it was, he hoped, the House would support to say, that two special trains would start him in keeping this Bill as it stood. each way every day except Sunday. One

The Bishop OP DOWN said, that the would start from Euston Square at 8.30 in Bill did interfere with certain vested rights, the evening, reaching its destination in a whereas his Amendment only gave the maximum of eleven hours; and another Bishop his legitimate jurisdiction. How- at half-past seven in the morning. Owing ever, he would not give their Lordships to the great speed of these trains it might be the trouble to divide.

necessary to moderate the number of car. Lord REDESDALE said, he had as riages they contained, in order to preserve strong an objection as the right rev. Pre- a proper weight. As to better accommodalate to exempt jurisdictions, but he objected tion for landing and embarking at Kingsto the Amendment, which did not refer to town, he had made inquiry on the subject. the Report.

That matter did not rest with the Post Amendment negatived.

Office, but with the Board of Works in Amendments made.

Dublin, as far as Ireland was concerned ; The Report thereof to be received on and he was informed that arrangements Friday next.

would be made, and the landing place

completed, in about three months. At MAIL COMMUNICATION WITII IRELAND. Holyhead the matter rested with the AdQUESTION.

miralty, and he was informed that the THE MARQUESS OF CLANRICARDE necessary arrangements would be combegged to ask the Postmaster General pleted in the present year. Whether he will lay upon the Table of

House adjourned at a quarter-past the House the Contract lately made by

Six o'clock, till To-morrow, the Government with Railway and Steam

half-past Ten o'clock. Packet Companies for the Acceleration of the Irish Mails ; and whether any Steps have been taken to obtain better Accom

HOUSE OF COMMONS, modation for landing and embarking pas. sengers at Kingstown and at Holyhead? Monday, March 7, 1859. He said that his notice was given, and he

MINUTES.] PUBLIC Bills.-1° Mutiny ; Marine asked the question on the assumption that

Mutiny ; Affidavits by Commission, &c. the contract to which he referred had been 20 East India Loan ; Remission of Penalties. signed. If so, it was desirable that it 3° Manor Courts, &c. (Ireland). should be known what the details were. It had been stated that the carriages attached

EXCISABLE LIQUORS (SCOTLAND). to the express mail trains were too limited for the accommodation required, and it was

LORD CLAUD HAMILTON appeared a point to which attention should be direct at the Bar with Her Majesty's Answer ed. There was another matter with re- to the Address for the appointment of a gard to which he hoped something would Royal Commission to inquire into the Laws be done, and that was with respect to regulating the Sale of Excisable Liquors affording better accommodation for landing in Scotland. and embarking passengers, especially at Kingstown. There was a great want of

I have received your Address praying accommodation there which could be easily that a Royal Commission may be appointremedied at a small expense and in a short cd to Inquire into the Laws regulating the time.

Sale and Consumption of Excisable Liquors Lord COLCHESTER said, that he had

in Scotland : to state that the contract which had been so long pending was signed and sealed on

And I have given directions that a Royal the 3rd of January. It would have been

Commission shall issue for the purpose completed sooner but for the circumstance which you have requested.

ANSWER TO ADDRESS.

CONSERVATORY AT KEW.

MR. WALPOLE said, that there was a QUESTION.

Notice in his name relative to a Bill for MR. DILLWYN said, he considered that regulating Beer-Houses and preventing the public appreciation of the Royal Gar- disorderly conduct in other places of Pubdens at Kew was fully shown by the fact lic Resort. He should not now bring it on that 400.000 persons visited the Gardens himself ; but the Secretary of State (Mr. during the past year.

He would ask the S. Estcourt) who had undertaken the task, First Commissioner of Works whether it concurred with him on the subject. is his intention in the next Estimates to make provision for the erection of a new

BATTLE OF CALPE E.
Conservatory at the Royal Gardens at

QUESTION.
Kew.
LORD JOHN MANNERS said, the sub-

GENERAL BUCKLEY said, he would beg ject was at the present time under the to ask the Secretary of State for India consideration of fler Majesty's Govern- whether Sir Hugh Rose, in his Despatch ment; but until they were in possession relative to the Battle of Calpee, had made of the architect's design he could not say particular mention of the gallant conduct whether the cost of the construction of the of the Camel Corps on that occasion ; and Conservatory would be an item in the Esti- whether a Clasp would be given for that mates of the current year.

Action ?

LORD STANLEY said, that on inquiry KINGSTOWN HARBOUR.

he found that the Despatch alluded to by

the bon. and gallant Member had not QUESTION MR. VANCE said, he rose to ask Mr. been lost on its way from head quarters at

reached this country. It appeared to have Chancellor of the Exchequer if it be the Bombay. As he had not seen it, he of intention of the Government to introduce course could say nothing as to its contents. any general or special measure this Session He had written to India for a duplicate of which will relieve the Foreign trade of it, if possible. With reference to the Dublin from the imposts now levied on it latter part of the Question he had to state exclusively for the Harbour of Refuge at that it was not intended to give a separate Kingstown.

Tue CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-clasp for the battle of Calpee. QUER replied, that it was not the intention of the Government to introduce any

OFFICERS IN TIIE MEDITERRANEAN. measure on the subject, nor could the Government admit that the imposts were

Major STUART KNOX said, he wished levied exclusively for the Harbour at to ask the Secretary of State for War the Kingstown. There was nothing in the

reason why Officers serving in the Media case different from the circumstances dis

terranean are not entitled to the same ac. cussed last year ; but there were cases

commodation in the way of Quarters or brought under the consideration of the allowance for the same) as Officers in the Board of Trade and the Irish Board of United Kingdom, and whether it is his inWorks which showed the existence of ano- tention to remedy this? malies in the present arrangements con- GENERAL PEEL replied that the Officers nected with Dublin Harbour which might serving in the Mediterranean were entitled require revision. The subject was now

to receive, and did receive, the same acunder the consideration of Governinent.

commodation in Barracks as Officers in the BEER-HOUSES AND PLACES OF PUBLIC be accommodated in Barracks, they re

United Kingdom, but when they could not RESORT.- QUESTION. MR. NICOLL said, he wished to ask the rate was fixed by the Treasury in 1851, on

ceived a pecuniary allowance instead. The Under Secretary for the Ilome Department the representation of a Board of Officers. if it is the intention of Government before Easter to bring in a Bill to amend the Law in respect to Beer-Houses and places of

HIGIIWAYS BILL-QUESTION. public entertainment.

MR. T. DUNCOMBE said, he wished MR. HARDY replied that it was the in- to know if the Government had

any objectention of the Government to bring in a tion to go into Committee on the Highways Bill on the subject.

Bill, pro forma, for the purpose of reprint

QUESTION.

SECOND READING.

GREY,

ing it with the Amendments of which notice MR. WALPOLE replied, that it was his had been given.

intention to move the second reading of the MR. HARDY said, he thought that Bill on Wednesday. The hon. Member for would be a very inconvenient course. The Tavistock had given notice of a Motion for better plan would be to go through the units rejection. The discussion would take opposed clauses, and postpone the new ones. place in the regular way. Although the Amendments looked formidable on paper, they were not in reality of

EAST INDIA LOAN BILL. great importance. In reply to a question by Sir George

Order for Second Reading read. THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHE. LORD STANLEY moved that the Indian QUER said the Government would not go Loan Bill be now read a second time. into the Highways Bill after ten o'clock. Sir GEORGE LEWIS said : Sir, be

fore this Bill is read a second time I think CHURCH RATES BILL-QUESTION. it important that the House should pause MR. VERNON SMITH wished to know and consider the principles on which it whether the Government intended to pro- is based. I am not one of those who ceed on Wednesday with the Bill on Church are inclined to place a high value on our Rates introduced by the right bon. Gen- Indian Empire. I am not one of those, as tleman the Member for the University of I formerly stated to the House, who are Cambridge. The second reading had been inclined to ascribe too great an advantage, fixed for Wednesday, but as that would be either as regards national strength or naAsh Wednesday, he presumed the House tional wealth, to our territorial possessions would not meet till two o'clock.

on the Continent of Asia. It has been THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHE. said that the existence of our trade with QUER said his right hon. Friend the India is in itself a conclusive proof of the Member for the University of Cambridge benefit we derive from that empire. But had undertaken to proceed with the Bill our trade with China is of more importance which he had introduced on Church Rates than our trade with India, and it would as a Govenment Bill, as he had taken a be quite possible to carry on a considerparticular interest in it; but if the House able commerce with India, even supposing did not wish it to be proceeded with on our territorial possessions there were not Wednesday he could not make any arrange- so extensive as they actually are. But ments as to its postponement until he though I think it is important to a correct had consulted with the hon. Baronet the understanding of our interests in that quarMember for Tavistock, (Sir J. Trelawny,) ter of the world that we should not exwhose Bill on the same subject stood next aggerate the advantages we derive from

our Indian empire, nor over estimate the MR. BRIGHT said, he would ask when amount either of material strength or mait was the intention of the Government to terial wealth we obtain from those possesproceed with the Church Rates Bill; those sions, nevertheless I fully admit it is not who were interested in the measure had a a practical question as far as this country right to know, and he wished to ask is concerned, whether we shall or shall not whether the right hou. Gentleman had carry on the government of India. Whemade

up
bis mind ?

ther, as popularly supposed even in this THE CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCIIE country, and more generally believed by QUER said, he had made up his mind long foreigvers, we derive vast advantages and ago. It was an act of courtesy by no great wealth from our Indian Empire, or means uncommon that whenever any Men- whether it is true that India is essentially ber had retired from the Government he a poor country, that its inhabitants have was at liberty to continue to conduct a Bill, little aptitude for trade and industry, that if he desired to do so. The measure was a they are bowed down by a grovelling suGovernment measure and they were pre- perstition, which checks every capacity for pared to proceed with it.

improvement; whichever of these views MR. HUTT said, he thought it would be may be true, nevertheless we have destroyvery convenient if the right hon Gentleman ed the Native Governments of India, and opposite would state what course he in- assumed the authority ourselves. We liave tended to pursue on Wednesday with re- thereby contracted obligations towards the spect to the Bill.

Natives which we are bound to fulfil.

in the paper.

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