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He knew he would bring upon himself a | and said as he rode along, "John Thomas, large amount of squirearchical indignation, I'll mark you.” The effect was indescriand he was prepared to bear it; but to pre- bable, because the ringleaders knew they vent it as much as possible, he would admit were marked men. He should like to see at the outset that he considered them indi- the hon. Gentleman at the head of the vidually as brave as Julius Cæsar, but as Bristol volunteers. No doubt they would a corps, they were very bad soldiers and prove a most unruly, insubordinate corps, inefficient constables. How could they and would make the hon. Gentleman exmake efficient cavalry corps out of forty- claim—“I have raised the devil, and I eight hours' drill? It took three or four can't put him down again !” They would months before a trooper could be placed on be shooting here and shooting there all his horse and twelve months before a com- over the country, and the day might come mon cavalry recruit was fit to enter the when they would shoot the hon. Gentleman field, and then he was not so good as he or any one else. The only suggestion he might be. Then in IIeaven's name, how could make was that a battery of artillery could these men be trained ? Were they should be added to the yeomanry. born horse soldiers ? He said, therefore, MR. WYLD said, he believed that the take these men off their horses and place loyalty and patriotism of the middle classes in their hands the rifle, which was equiva. had prevented the threatened invasion from lent in modern times to what the bow was Bonaparte. Since then the moral tone of in ancient times. Let the country gentle- the people had much improved, and all clasmen then put up targets in their parks, ses were heartily attached to the Throne and place themselves at the head of their and the institutions of the country. There men, as their ancestors did in the days of was not reason then to suppose that the A gincourt and Cressey. But while they people of this country if taught the use of allowed this tomfoolery to go on with the arms would turn them against the Governsquirearchy, they turned their backs on ment. the middle classes, who came forward and MR. PIGOTT said, that no class of men said, We are unacquainted with the use of in the world knew how to manage a horse arms—give us weapons, and let us prac- better than the farmers of England, and tice the use of that fatal weapon which was he would suggest that if the hon. Member lately invented. If they answered that for Bristol was generous enough to offer a prayer they might in the event of an invasion cup for competition among the yeomanry turn every hedge into a fortress, instead troops of his owu or any other district he of having a cowed, frightened, and panic- would soon find out, that at all events they stricken population. But this reasonable knew very well how to ride. petition was not listened to ; he himself GENERAL CODRINGTON said he thought had presented a petition for this purpose that it was of the utmost importance that from the mayor and corporation of Bristol the peasantry of the country should be as the gallant General knew (General taught rifle practice. They would then PEEL, “ Hear!”] It was said that there feel confidence in themselves, and prove a

a hitch somewhere at the Horse most important aid should an invasion Guards, but he hoped the gallant General ever be attempted. would get rid of it and establish these GENERAL SIR W. F. WILLIAMS said, corps of volunteers. In the meantime he he also concurred in the opinion that if the would move that this Vote be expunged. peasantry were trained to the use of arms

COLONEL KNOX said, he had never they would become invaluable. Not only heard in that House a speech niore indis- would they prove invaluable guides in a creet and absurd than that of the hon. country teeming with hedgerows, but would, Gentleman. He himself was in the yeoman- if trained, be the best force that could be ry and had been for twenty-five years in the devised against an invading army, army, and knew something of both forces. MR. AYRTON said, he would appeal It was an ancient and most constitutional to the hon. Member for Bristol to withdraw force, and as to their forty-eight hours' his Motion, and to ask for a Committee to drill, he could assure the Committee that consider the propriety of establishing rifle for the seven days they were out at drill they corps throughout the country. He himself were at the work from morning till night. was in favour of a volunteer force for the The yeomanry corps was most efficient in defence of the country ; but the yeomanry internal disturbances, because each yeo. was a volunteer corps, and for that reason man knew his man in an excited crowd, ought to be maintained.


MAJOR EDWARDS: It was not my jects. I believe they are able and willing intention to bave troubled the House with to assist in protecting the interests of their any remarks upon this occasion, but I can country whenever they may be called upon, not allow this discussion to pass without and of this I am convinced, that they are expressing my opinion upon the subject of always found a most valuable force for the importance of the yeomanry as a part the protection of the districts in which of our national defences. Yeomanry regi- they reside. But even if, as has been ments are composed of men who are taken alleged by some hon. Gentlemen, they from all classes of society in this country. would under the present system be useIn them you have the farmer and the shop. less acting against an organized military keeper, the mechanic and the peasant, force, I contend that they are of the associating together, presided over by the greatest possible advantage when their nobility and gentry of England, and form- services are called into requisition for the ing in the aggregate a force which is more purpose of quelling intestine disturbances. constitutional than any other, and which Many hon. Gentlemen might recollect the might be relied on to the utmost in case services which they rendered during the an invasion should ever be attempted, and riots whieh occurred in the country so rewhich, though some people affect to think cently as in the year 1842, and their efforts a very improbable contingency, it is as' upon that occasion were gratefully acknoirwell to provide against. With reg ird to ledged by the Government. As a marked the drilling of the yeomanry, I differ most instance of their energy and activity, I materially from the hon. Member for Bris- may mention that, out of the 111 men of tol. That hon. Gentleman has chosen to which the Halifax squadron of the 2nd say that the men are drilled only forty- West Yorkshire Regiment is composed, eight hours in the year. I can tell him 101 marched in the middle of the night, that the ycomanry regiment to which I having had only five hours' notice, from have the honour to belong is drilled more that town to Bradford, to assist the regular than ten times that perivd, and the same troops when danger was apprehended by remark, I believe, applies to most other the authorities ; many of the men living regiments, for although only paid for eight at a distance of five miles from the town. days' duty by the Government during their What more valuable source can there be annual training, many of the men are out for the formation of good cavalry than is in detachments or troops once or twice dur- to be found in the yeomanry troops ? I ing the week for six months under perma- tell hon. Members that it is to this force nent serjeants, and generally in the pre- , a and the militia they will have to look for sence of some of their officers. Believing the forces which will be required for Home as I do that this is one of the best forces Service when at any future time it is nethat can possibly be organized, I hope that cessary to employ our army abroad. A the hon. Member will not, when the Esti- gallant officer on the other side of the mates conie before the House next year, House has made some allusion with respect grudge a great extension to so constitu- to the propriety of arming the yeomanry tional a force. It is one which I think troops, and the people generally, with might even be doubled with great advan- rifles. This I quite approve as regards tage to the country, and I believe that the the former, but at the same time I should country would not object to see it thus ex altogether disapprove of that becoming a tended. No one will deny it furnishes us general practice among civilians in this with good horsemen. In my regiment we country. We have, Sir, a pretty fair exhave riding schools in each town, and these' ample in France of the effect of training buildings have been erected for its use by every one of the population to the use of the inhabitants. My experience is that all arms. Whether such a practice would classes have shown themselves interested tend to strengthen the Government of the in the yeomanry. So far from causing by country or not, is a point upon which I their conduct a bad feeling in the neighi- will leave hon. Gentlemen to form their bourhood to which they belong, I can bear own opinion. I do not think it would ; testimony to the fact that the very best but I except from these observations regipossible feeling exists, and, instead of their ments which are now taught the use of the being, as was stated by the hon. Gentle- carbine. This arm cannot be said to be as

despised and disregarded,” I can efficient as the rifle, and therefore I trust tell him that they are very much respected that the Secretary at War will think pro. by all classes of Her Majesty's loyal sub- per, as soon as practicable, to substitute the rifle for the carbine, as in the regular | the College of Physicians to report on cavalry ; for bad as the present carbine is Vaccination; and their Report, in answer, compared with that recently given to many was replete with evidence in its favour; of our cavalry regiments, its use has not and, since then, and especially in 1857, been altogether neglected. I believe it to that testimony bad received the fullest conbe a common custom in most regiments for firmation. Notwithstanding, we were yet the officers to give prizes to the best marks- far behind many of the smaller nations of man in each troop, producing an amount of Europe in the facilities which were afforded rivalry amongst the men which cannot be for putting it into practice. The report of too much encouraged. I say, Sir, that the Registrar General showed that in ten properly armed, there is no body of men districts in England one quarter of the who in the fastnesses of Yorkshire and deaths proceeded from small-pox; and in Lancashire, or of many other parts of this that very district of London there had kingdom, from their great knowledge of been 228 cases of death from small.pox the country ; intersected as it is with so within the last seventeen weeks, whereas in many hedges, roads, streams, and other the preceding eighteen months there had obstacles to the progress of an enemy's only been 225 cases. In 130 districts force, would prove so valuable and so efti- small-pox was now prevalent in a greater cient as a well trained yeomanry corps. or less degree. There was very little


MR. CROSSLEY could not agree at all doubt that the increasing number of cases with the hon. Member for Bristol on this of small-pox was attributable to neglect of question, considering that the yeomanry vaccination and to bad vaccination. It were most valuable as a means of quelling was clear that after the compulsory Act all local disturbances. In an emergency passed the proportion of children vaccinated of that kind the object was to disperse the to the number of births increased very mob and not to shoot them down.

largely indeed. The percentage in 1854 MR. W. WILLIAMS said, he also would was sixty-five; but in 1855 it fell to fiftyjoin in the appeal made to the hon. Mem- six ; in 1856 it fell to fifty-four ; and in ber for Bristol to withdraw his Amendment. 1857 it fell to fifty-two. There was no

Mr. H. BERKELEY, in reply, said he return which showed the result last year. would not press his Amendment, as he had With regard to the neglect of vaccination, attained his object, which was to elicit an it was owing to the apathy of the parish opinion touching the necessity for rifle prac- officers, to the apathy of the public vaccitice.

nators, and to the apathy of the popula. Vote agreed to.

tion, of whom no penalties were demanded. House resumed.

With regard to the badness of vaccination, Resolutions to be reported Monday Dr. Jenner had stated that, although the next.

art was very easy to learn, unless it was House adjourned at half after Twelve properly learnt, vaccination was absolutely o'clock till Monday next. good for nothing. Mr. Marson, of the

Small-pox IIospital, stated that in the course of sixteen years, of 3,098 cases of small-pox which had been brought under his notice, he found only 268 cases in

which the marks of the best vaccination HOUSE OF LORDS, appeared, and of those 268 cases three

only terminated fatally. It was a proof of Monday, March 7, 1859.

the valne of good vaccination ; and, at the Minutes). Took the Oath. —The Bishop of Cork, same time, of the prevalence of bad vacci&c.

nation. He would suggest that the Privy

Council should provide some means of inVACCINATION.-QUESTION.

struction to those medical men who wished EARL GRANVILLE, in putting a Ques- to become public vaccinators, and require tion to the noble Marquess the Presi- from them, before being appointed public dent of the Council, as to whether any vaccinators, some proof of their being well regulations had been issued by the Privy informed of the matter with which they Council in respect to Vaccination under the would have to deal. It would be of the second clause of the Act of last Session, greatest advantage if some general regulasaid, that it was now fifty years since the tions and instructions were issued under King, by an Order in Council, requested the authority of the Privy Council as to


the mole of performing the operation, and the number was only 6,327, adding that if steps were taken to ensure a supply of ordinarily that board distributed about good lymph. It would also be very de- 215,000 charyes of lymph ; but that sirable if the district vaccinators informed under peculiar circumstances the demand the Privy Council when cases of small-pox had risen (and might again rise) to about occurred, and if the Privy Council sent im- 320,000 charges—an amount nearly 60 mediately to such a district a competent per cent higher tlian was supplied in medical authority to examine into the mode 1838, when the sources of supply were of vaccination and to stimulate the popu- pearly three times as

as at lation to avail themselves of so great a present, and suggesting an inquiry into benefit. It was unnecessary for him to the state of vaccination in certain large urge upon bis noble Friend the necessity towns. At the end of the year 1858, of having a certain remedy for so danger. the medical officer of the Privy Council ous, and, in very many cases, so fatal a proceeded to Liverpool and Manchester, disease, applied in the best manner. The and made arrangements in the latter expense of what he (Earl Granville) sug- place, which would ensure a supply of gested would not be great. What he from 20,000 to 30,000 charges of reliablo would deprecate was delay; and he should, lymph. Communications subsequently ad. therefore, be happy to learn that the atten- dressed to the Metropolitan Boards of tion of the Government had already been Guardians would, it was hoped, enable turned to this important subject. The their Lordships to secure a further large noble Earl concluded by putting his Ques- increase of trustworthy lymph. As soon tion to the noble Marquess.

as the Registrar General's Returns were TAE MARQUESS OF SALISBURY con- completed up to the end of the year, their curred in thinking it a most important, Lordships directed communications to be though almost exclusively a medical ques- addressed to those Boards of Guardians in tion. The Privy Council had had their whose unions there appeared to be a conattention directed to the subject. They siderable disproportion between the numhad been in communication with the Poor ber of births registered and the number Law Board, and with their assistance were of certificates of successful vaccination reabout to take measures to prevent any but ceived by the registrars of districts : 194 properly qualified vaccinators to become letters were accordingly written on the contractors for vaccination. They fur- 22nd of February to call attention to the ther intended to apply to the Medical disproportion, and to urge the Boards to Council to make the knowledge of vac- use their utmost efforts to diffuse the becination one of the qualifications for ob- nefits of vaccination. taining a diploma. They had taken mea- THE EARL OF SHAFTESBURY was sures to secure a supply of pure lymph understood to observe, that it was most and the more general practice of vac- frightful in this civilized country that so cination. He regretted that the propor- many deaths should occur from the effects tion of cases of vaccination had dimi- of small.pox, which might be prevented nished. In 1849 the number of persons if the practice of vaccination had been envaccinated was 345,315; of persons suc- forced. The deaths that took place from cessfully vaccinated, 333,248; of regis- this cause were not, however, the extent tered births, 558,102. In 1854 the num- of the evil, for even in those cases where ber vaccinated was 698.935; of success- death did not ensue, the seeds of decay ful vaccinations, 677,886 ; of registered and established disorder were laid, which births, 623,699. In 1858 the number of gradually undermined the constitutions of persons vaccinated had diminished to the sufferers, and occasioned early and pre468,008; successful vaccinations, 455,004; nature deaths., It was extraordinary that registered births, 654,914. In November, there should still be such strong prejudice 1858, the National Vaccine Board called in the minds of some people against vaccithe attention of the Privy Council to the nation. Those persons believed either increasing deficiency of the supply of that the operation was wholly inefficient, vaccine lymph, stating that in 1838 the or that other disorders were communicated number of vaccinations performed by their by vaccination as bad as the disease itself establishment was 18,659; that the ave. which it was the object of the system to rage number in 1850, 18! and 1852 guard against. That prejudice still rewas 10,713 ; and the average of 1854, mained, and in many cases neutralized the 1855, and 1856, 8,207 ; while in 1857 intentions of the Act, although it was com1345 Ecclesiastical Courts and {March 7, 1859 Registries (Ireland) Bill. 1346 pulsory, and imposed certain penalties for even hold a confirmation withint he prenon-compliance with its provisions. A cincts of the exempt jurisdictions withfriend had told him that morning of a case out the concurrence of the incumbent, nor in which a man was visited with a penalty could they require the incumbent to bring for refusing to allow his child to ve vacci. the children of his parishioners to a neighnated. The father said he had no confi- bouring parish to be coufirmed. They had dence in vaccination, and he did not believe no authority over the incumbent ; such as that the lymph itself was pure. He trust the canons of the Church gave them in ed that measures would be taken to satisfy every other case, with respect to purity of the people of the purity of the lymph, and morals or orthodoxy of faith. He put it that the compulsory provisions of the law to their Lordships to say whether this was would be carried out.

a time when a system so injurious as that LORD REDESDALE said, that there to the due working of the Church should was no doubt that the regulations of the be maintained in Ireland. It was said Act had been very much neglected. The that to disturb this arrangement would be Act had been almost inoperative. It arose to interfere with vested rights, but he held from the objections of people in the coun- that there were no inherent rights which try to the mode in which the regulations authorized an incumbent to exercise his were carried out, as he could state from ministry irrespective of episcopal control, his own experience. If the child of a and superior to ecclesiastical jurisdiction, neighbour was vaccinated, and the lymph such was totally at variance with the conwas obtained from it, there was no ob. stitution of the Church and the canon jection to it; but they did not like lymph law of the land. He contended that the that had been brought by the medical man exempt jurisdictions in question were from some strange child, of which they knew analogous to the case of " peculiars” in nothing, to be used for their children. The England. On the recommendation of the disease was one that was very liable to Ecclesiastical Commissioners, the jurisdicspread, and adults were even more liable tion of the “peculiars,” both contentious to it than children, and therefore they and voluntary, had been abolished ; and were very much afraid of baving strange that being so, he conceived he had a right lymph introduced.

to ask their Lordships to assent to an EARL GRANVILLE said, that it was a Amendment of the Bill under consideration, pity that the powers given by the Act to which would effect a similar purpose with the Privy Council were not carried out, respect to the exempt jurisdictions to which and that the penalties remained in abey- he bad referred. His Grace the Arch

If necessary, he thought that they bishop of Dublin, whom he had felt it his ought to have come to the Parliament for duty to consult on this subject, whose more Powers.

authority would have weight with their Lordships from his high position and

character, had been pleased to commuECCLESIASTICAL COURTS AND REGIS

nicate his opinion to him in writing to TRIES (IRELAND) BILL.

the effect that he had always considerCOMMITTEE.

ed exempt jurisdictions as an unmixed House in Committee (according to Order). evil, and one which he thought it would Bill reported without Amendment. be as easy as it was desirable to abo, On Question that the Report be received, lish.

The right rev. Prelate concluded by THE BISHOP DOWN moved an moving the insertion of words in Clause 4 Amendment to Clause 4, the object of to effect the object he had indicatedwhich, was, he said, to correct a serious namely, the abolition of exempt jurisdicevil which interfered most materially with tions whiclı, he said, were nothing but the the working of the ecclesiastical system in usurpations of a dark age. Ireland. Two large districts, one in his The EARL OF DONOUGHMORE opdiocese of Down and Connor and the other posed the Amendment on the ground that in the archdiocese of Armagh, were exempt the Bill was one affecting procedure, and from ecclesiastical jurisdiction, and the ob- interfered with no rights, and therefore it ject of his Amendment was to abolish that could not deal with the question of exempt exemption. Over those dictricts neither jurisdictions. The Amendment would inthe Bishop in the one case nor the Arch-, cumber the Bill with another question altobishop in the other could exercise any gether. The Bill was now in its third ecclesiastical authority. They could not stage, and it was not competent to any one VOL. CLII. (TAIRD SERIES.]

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