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expenditure took place, and distinctly Scotch totters, it would have been much describing the several items expended wiser to suffer to be received in silence. in each year ; together with the Par
WM. COBBETT. liamentary votes on account of that P.S. This, after all, is founded only project ; and also for a copy of the re-on hearsay ; only on what I have been port of the comınittee, on which report told that the report contained. If I the Act of Parliament was founded. have not been correctly informed, that Let Mr. Hume decline to do this if he which I have said above, with regard to plertse ; let him believe, if he please, Mr. Hume, and also with regard to that we do not mean to have the money Peel’s-Bır.c-Peel, and even the FOOLback again out of cunning proprietors LIAR publisher, will, of course, pass of the Highlands; but let him not, if for nothing. he mean to go quietly through this life, endeavour to make appear to be false, truths stated in a petition by me; let him and Peter Thuile, and the poor bewildered creatures of the Govern
THE FAST. ment, have an antipathy as strong as they please to the plain good sense pro
(From the Morning Chronicle.) ceeding from my pen and tongue; let
As the various dissenting congregathem if they please indulge the child- tions in the metropolis will probably ish hope of making a Parliamentary pursue different courses in reference to Reform without materially changing the approaching fast, and the motives of this at once rickety and cruel systent; such as decline compliance with the but let them not again I say expect Government order may be liable to that impunity which has so long been misconstruction, the Minister and Deaexperienced by those whose main busi- cons of the General Baptist Church, ness it has been to cajole and deceive the Worship-street, Finsbury-square, deem people,
it right to state the reasons which have I again thank Mr. Alderman Wood induced that Society to determine upon for his promptitude in complying with the "non-observance” of the fast. my request. This statement was due to First : Because this church, though the Alderman as well as to myself, it fully purposing to include in their ordibeing necessary to show that the objec- nary religious services a thankful refertions of the • brace of brainless oro-ence to the continued favours of Divine thers,” and those of Mr. Hume in parti- Providence, and a dutiful resignation to cular, were not well founded; and that the trials it appoints, vet consider that every word in the petition, which he did an object, innocent in itself, becomes me the honour to present, was founded objectionable when a compliance with in truth. When I get home, I will, if I it involves the recognition of human can find them, send the Alderman some authority in matters of religion-And, of the printed papers sent forth by the secondly: Because this church, howBOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. He will then ever reluctant, as such, to enter into see who it is who is paying for the ex- political considerations, cannot but repenses attending that board. But who gard the enjoining fast as originating pays, I should like to know, for the nu- with certain pretenders te evangelical gerous advertisements which this board superiority, who, by their inveterate ophas put into the public papers! Upon position to national improvement, have other matters Mr. Home would have helped to occasion the ignorance and traced to its source this sort of encou- consequent vice which they would now Fagement laudably given to literature! make the ground of national humiliaIn short, the Alderman can, whenever tion, and represent as a Divine judga he pleases, ascertain the truth of the ment the misery and disease to which fects which I have stated in my petition, their own measures bare mainly conwhich, on the part of the jobbers and duced.
and Donegal. The first duty of the GoIRISH TITHE BUDGET, vernment, when this systematic and Laid before the House of Commons, no doubt to use all the ordinary means
organised resistance commenced, was on Tuesday, the 13th of March.
which the law placed at their disposal (Plenty of time for remarks hereafter.) to preserve peace and order, and to en
force the legal demands of the Clergy. Mr. STANLEY wished, in the first And it would be found, by reference to place, to express his deep regret that the evidence, that all that could be done the course of conduct which he thought with this view had been effected. The it his duty to pursue on this subject present Gorernment was not to be should have laid him open to an impu- charged that these outrages were the tation, from any part of the House, of work of their hands. The seeds of this deceiving or entrapping the House into violence and insubordination must have a hasty measure. His Majesty's Go. been-and it was well known that they vernment felt it their bounden duty to were-deep rooted. This at least he go along with that which was the could say, that, before he had the hounanimous feeling of the whole of the nour of holding the office of Chief Secommittee that had been appointed to cretary for Ireland, the first illegal noinquire into this subject. He was aware lices und declarations against the paythat very cogent and iinperative circum- ment of tithes were already in progress stances alone ought to induce a Govern- at the time of the present Government ment to propose to the legislature any coming into office. Every protection alteration of what was considered part of, which a large wilitary force and the emthe law of property in the country; but ployment of the whole body of the pohe said that the papers on the table of lice could afford was given for the recothe House fully disclosed the necessity very of the debts which were due, and of the measures to which his Majesty's the protection of property. He trusted Government was about to have recourse. to the indulgence of the House if he was It was in the month of November, 1830, compelled frequently, in the course of that the first open and systematic resist- his address, to refer for his justification ance to the collection of tithe in Ireland to that which could alone be his justifimanifested itself. Sir John Harvey, the cation-namely, the evidence. Major Inspector-General of Police in the pro- Brown, who was first employed as a vince of Leinster, whose evidence would Sub-Inspector of Police in the county of be found in the report of the Commit- Kilkenny, and had been much engaged tee, described the extent to which the in the affairs of the county, stated that combination against tithes speedily led a force of 350 men was employed under in his district. He said he did not con- his orders for the purpose of protecting ceive there was any part of his district persons distraining cattle, for a period which he could state to be wholly free of two months, every day, sometimes from that combination. Major Tandy twice a day; that he was our personally said that a similar spirit prevailed in the very frequently, and that the police county of Kildare. Mr. Fitzgerald de during that time were indefatigable. clared that the resistance was spread And this was within three months after over Tipperary, and the South of Ire- the systematic resistance to tithes first land, and other witnesses described it as commenced. In that short period it had extending over Waterford, Cork, Li- become necessary to have a numerous merick, and existing in a trilling degree police and military body in operation to in Kerry; while the noblemen and enforce a civil demand in two counties gentlemen wio held the responsible si- where the opposition had never before luation of Lords Lieutenant of Coun- appeared. The mode of opposition which ties gave the same information with was adopted was such as it was extremely respect, not to Catholic counties, but difficult to deal with. There were vato the counties of Londonderry, Arinagh, rious modes, none of which were new
for tithes were not a new grievance in consider it a credit to him to further the Ireland; but the opposition had never ends of justice, and to bring a delinbefore been carried to so wide, and quent to punishment-persons who wittherefore so dangerous an extent. In- nessed all this could form no idea of timidation, violence, and outrage upon the effect which was produced in Ireprocess-servers combination against land by a mere anonymous notice, or a the seizure of cattle — combinations threatening placard, which would be against the purchase of cattle when disregarded in England, and treated as sold--combination against offering any a piece of contemptible mockery; they facility for the disposal of cattle-in could have no idea of the power which short, every symptom manifested itself measures of intimidation and menace that was characteristic of an organised exercised in Ireiand on the minds, not system adopted by the whole popula- only of the lowest and most degraded tion acting as one man, in opposition to of the people, but also of the higher the payment of a legal due. So far was and better orders. It would be acknowintimidation carried, that it not only ledged how much more easily in Irebecame difficult to provide any persons, land, with a scattered population, rehowever necessitous their condition, siding in miserable and easily-destroyed who would expose themselves to the houses, apart from each other and reinvidious and dangerous task of pro- mote from assistance, amongst numcess-servers, but in inany of the great bers of persons short of work, and towns in Ireland it was almost impossi- consequently ready for acts of violence, ble to get an attorney to take a fee from those threats could be carried into effect, a client, or to afford his legal assistance against which the best police or the in recovering a legal due. This fact most vigilant government could not would really appear so incredible, that protect those who had exposed themhe felt it incumbent upon him to sub- selves to private malice which might be stantiate it by a reference to the evi- wreaked in nightly vengeance. And dence. Mr. Fitzgerald said that, sup- had not these intimidations been carried posing the other difficulties to which he into practice? From the earliest times alluded to be got over, the next would had we not heard of violence and outbe to find an attorney to more the pro- rage, particularly on this subject of cesses at the Quarter Sessions that tithes ? Was there a year when the generally speaking, in his neighbour- odious office of process-server did not hood the attorneys were so intimidated, subject individuals to popular violence that they refused to move tithe pro- and brutal outrage, sometimes even cesses—that one case had come within ending in bloodshed and murder? And his own knowledye, of four magistrates this violence reacted upon itself in this on their way to attend their duties on way:— The exposure to danger and the bench, who were mistaken, at the outrage which men thus incurred would town of Thurles, for attorneys, and the have the effect, that the office would mob told them not on any account to not be undertaken by any but the most move tithe processes—that if they did desperate and abandoned characters, they should never leave that part of the whose conduct, although it could not country alive: and here he wished to justify, would be such as almost to palobserve that intimidation in Ireland liate, those outrages which might be was a very different thing from intimi- committed upon them. But even supdation in England. English gentlemen, posing that no violence were committed, who were so used to the protection of a tacit combination existed, that no the law-who knew that in this country seizures of cattle should be made if the the law was paramount, and that the law could possibly be evaded. Major exceptions were the violations of the Brown, in his evidence, showed the delaw-who saw the whole population scription of this opposition. He said, embarked on the side of the law, and that the whole of the population were that there was no man who would not upon the watch, that signals were made
on the approach of the drivers and the on a former night, it had been held that police, and the cattle were carried off the clergy were not suffering that and placed under lock and key; and as pressing and imperious distress which the law did not permit doors to be was represented. The Committee would broken open, not so many seizures were therefore excuse him if he begged leave made as might be expected ; that the to substantiate his stateorent by two excattle, when seized, were brought to the tracts from the evidence. Mr. Fitzgepound, and were invariably bought by frald stated that Archdeacon Cotton and the owner on the day of sale. He had the Rev. Mr. Woodward had both posialready said that all the aid of military tively declined pressing their claimsand police which the Government had that Mr. Woodward said he could not at its disposal had been given, and he conscientiously seek tithe that must be would now beg the attention of the enforced with the probable effusion of House while he described what was the blood. Being asked whether it was success of those measures. Sir John within his knowledge that many of the Harvey said, that, by employing an clergy are, in consequence of the oppooverwhelming force at the parish of sition, reduced to great distress, he anGraig ue for two months, he was enabled swered, “ I know that they are in great to collect about one-third of the arrear destitution. Men who last year held due ; that by that period another half an income of sool. or lovól. a.year, year bad become due; so that not a are this year in want of the necessaries tithe of the tithe of the clergy was col- of life.” Sir John Harvey said, on the lected, but only one-third of the tithe same point, that he had heard of some in one sivgle parish. He stated this as instances of two and three years' tithe proof of the first resolution he meant to being due to the clergy. And what was propose, which was a resolution of fact, to be implied by the destitution of their declaring the extensive system of orga- situation? It was not that they were nised opposition by which the powers of obliged to deprive themselves of the the law were rendered unavailing. He luxuries or superfluities of life, to part had heard a great deal said of the oppo- with a carriage which they did not want, sition being confined to particular pa- or a servant whom they could spare. rishes, and not extending beyond one or Sir J. Ilarvey said, " A gentleman with two dioceses. He was ready to admit whom I am well acquainted told me that where violent resistance to the law that he had just been sending a sheep had taken place did not exceed two, or, and a few potatoes, and a small note, to he believeil, three districts. But the a gentleman who was formerly in comHouse would form a very erroneous parative affluence, and that he had neiestimate of the extent or effect of the ther a shilling nor a pound of meat in combination if they confined it to those his house. And this testimony was places where actual collisions had taken supported and repeated by several who place, for they would find from the evi- had no interest in misrepresenting the dence that many of the clergy, under facts. Dr. Hamilton), as well as Sir a deep sense of the impossibility of John Harvey, described the clergy as recovering their rights, and impress being in a pitiable state of distress, and ed with the awful responsibility to stated that he knew two in absolute which, as inen and as ministers, they want. The Rev. Mr. Barrett wrote would be exposing themselves, by that there were three years' tithes due to calling upon the Government to resort him, and no person would undertake to to violent or strong measures to enforce execute a decree. But he would more their rights, had submitted to a total particularly refer to the letter of the annihilation of their incomes, and were Rev. Mr. Moore to Sir William Gosset, consequently reduced to the extremest dated 7th of January, 1832. This was distress and privation. He should not not one of those pampered clergymen have felt it necessary to allodle to who were so much cried out against for this were it not that, in the discussion, indulging in the luxuries and superflui. ties of life. He was an unhappy gen- which conjointly his Majesty's Governtleman living, or rather starving, in a ment was inclined to act, and which remote district upon an income of 70l. conjointly they submitted for the conor sol. a year.
And what was his ac- sideration of Parliament. The first recount? He said, “Three years have solution which he proposed to found elapsed since the appointment to my upon the facts which he had stated present curacy
took place; for the first was, year my salary was punctually paid, but “ That it appears to the committee, that in for the last two years I may say it has several parts of Ireland, an organised and ceased. Although my rector is most systematic opposition has been made to the
payment of tithes, by which the law is renanxious to pay me my small pittance, dered uvavailing, and many clergymen of tbe yet, from the continued reluctance and Established Church are reduced to great peincreased resistance to pay tithe, he has cuniary distress." not the means. It is true I could apply These were the facts upon which he to my diocesan, but he can give me no proposed to found the course which his redress ; for even if the parish were se- Majesty's Government was about to questered, I should be unable to collect adopt: and the first question was, What the tithe. But why should I be so de course was it their duty to pursue, not void of feeling as to worry and harass less with a view to do justice to the an unfortunate gentleman, situated as individual clergyman who was suffering he is, having a family consisting of a under the distress produced by the rewife and seven children to support, for sistance to tithes than to uphold the which he can with difficulty procure law, and prevent its being rendered food and raiment, although at this mo- systematically unavailing? He believed ment upwards of 14001. are due by his there was no man, at least he hoped he parishioners. In the mean time I would might venture to say there were few, respectfully inquire what am I to do? In who would hesitate to say that, under another month two years' salary will be such circums!ances, a body of men due, and in less than another month 1. holding the situation occupied by the shall be obliged make up the sum of|clergy were entitled to every assistance 1001. Small as my salary (701. per an- and relief that could be afforded them num) is, still to a man having a family by Parliament. (Hear, hear.) Eren and small establishment to support, as those who most objected to the course well as to try to support an appearance which his Majesty's Government was with those in my own rank, it must be about to pursue, did not pretend to say very distressing to want that trifle such that they ought not to use every means a length of time.” Gentlemen might in their power to relieve the clergy. say ihat the clergy were sufficiently But he said in answer, How, or on what paid, and that the savings of one year principle, were they to relieve them? ought to compensate for the losses of Was the House prepared to say that, another. But his answer was, Suppose because there was a systematic opposia clergyman to be a conscientious man, tion to a legal due, by which the clergy and from a notion of duty to consider were deprived of their income, the himself bound to save nó part of his country was to step forward and make income, but to spend all that he derived good the losses that the public purse from his tithes in his parish, was he to was to be drawn upon for relief, and no be told that that was an argument for ulterior steps should be taken? He said leaving him alone, without rendering that this would be an injustice, not to him any assistance to recover his just the clergy, but to the country. It would claims? These were the facts upon be a premium upon disaffection. (Hear, which he proposed to move the first of hear.) It would be a bribe to violate a series of resolutions, which, although the law, a temptation to turbulent confor the sake of clearness he would state duct, and a condemnation, strong as it separately, he yet wished it to be language could pronounce, of those who taken as part of a set of measures upon submitted to the payment of tithes,