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MINOR CORRESPONDENCE.

In our number for January we propose to are probably the work of the same artist, lay before our Readers a fine bird's eye View being most interesting examples of that style of the intended St. Katharine's Docks, with of architecture where the Grecian is engrafied a circumstantial detail of the design of that in the Gothic. In the ancient house of Halimmense public undertaking.

naker (of which see a view in vol. LXXXII. The helmet depicted by an Admirer of i. 409); and which is almost now a ruin, are ANTIQUES, which was found in Stanwell some most curious remains; a room yet exChurchyard, Middlesex, is a demilauncer's ists of carved wainscoat, in which are ficasque of the time of Elizabeth. The bars gures of King Henry VIII. and Queen Caand chin-piece, of which he speaks, were af- therine, of Thomas Lord De la War and fixed for the purpose of placing it over a his wife, together with various armorial bearmonument; now that they are removed, it ings. This is now used as a bed-room by is restored to its original state. The catch the cottager, who occupies the few remainor rivet at the top was put on at the same ing rooms in this once magnificent mansion, time as the bars, in order to hold the crest, and seldom seen unless particularly enquired and, like them, were foreign to its original after. It is among the most interesting repurpose.

mains of domestic architecture with which T. R. Weeton is referred, for the present, the writer of this hasty note is acquainted. to several elaborate Essays on Surnames, by The estate at Haloaker was exchanged Dr. Pegge the antiquary, in vol. xlii.; also with the Crown for the site of the Abbey of to vol. xliv. p. 252, and some other places Wherwell in Hampshire, during the lifementioned in our General Indexes. An ana- time of this Thomas Lord De la War; and. lysis of Verstegan's “ Restitution of Decayed the estate of Offington was alienated early in Intelligence was printed in vol. lxxxi. ii. the reign of Elizabeth to Edward Alford. 18. A small volume on Names, by Mr. Brady, A Stanstead Correspondent, who signs “PAis reviewed in vol. xcii. i. 437.

TRUM Virtus," remarks, that “the family The Medallion of Pescennius Niger, sent of Ware, though the title was conveyed to by our kind Correspondent J.L. is a very the West family by the first-born female, had one, and being known to be false, is of was perpetuated by a younger son. A delittle or no value. J.L. appears to have scendant went into Ireland with Earl Fitzformed an erroneous opinion, when he states william, when Lord Lieutenant, as confithat such spurious pieces are held by Medal- dential Secretary, and is highly mentioned lists in a certain degree of estimation. The in history." contrary is the fact.

A CORRESPONDENT observes, “ in p.372, - T. Roe

says, Antiquarius (p. 194), is Lord Langford is stated to have been crereferred to · Dugdale's Baronage,' vol. 11. ated Baron Rowley. This is an error adopted p. 139, et seq. for much information re- from p. 1138 of the last Edition of Debrett's specting the noble family of West de la War. Peerage ; his Lordship's only title of PeerThe principal residence of Thomas Lord de age was Baron Langford of Summerhill." la War, in the early part of the reign of The same Correspondent says, “ Lord Henry VIII. was Offington in the parish of Lilford's title is Baron Lilford, co. NorthBroadwater in Sussex. This nobleman, by ampton, without any other addition; it was his will, dated : Oct. 17 Hen. Vill. he- incorrect, therefore, in page 275 to style his queathed his body to be buried in the tombe Lordship “Baron Lilford of Lilford Park, of freestone, within the chancel of the and of Atherton and Bewey, co. Lancaster." Church of Broadwater. This tomb, like The latter places were his Lordship's promost others in country Churches, was so perty, but made no part of his Baronial title. defaced with coats of whitewash, as to have Since the letter of Mr. Milne, in p. 496, was lost all its original beauty, until the late printed, that Gentleman has addressed us, Hon. Mrs. Damer, (who was connected with saying that, upon reflection, he would write the family of De la War) employed herself the name of his parish Sweya-Denmark. Is in chiselling out the accumulated coats of would still be pronounced Swedenmark. whitewash, and restoring it to its former We received the favour alluded to by our freshness. Thomas Lord La War, son of kind Correspondent from Magellegan. the above, was also buried in the Church of Broadwater ; but the arms and ornaments on ERRATA.-P. 98 b. 37, for death read sehis tomb arc yet buried in whitewash. He cond marriage ; 189 b. 58, for Horsley read married Elizabeth, heiress of — Benville of Halifax, (Mrs. Halifax was sister to Mrs. Haloaker in Sussex. In the Church of Box- Way, recently deceased); 297 a. 11, reed grove, in which parish Halnaker is situated, Kytson ; 368 a. 44, Curraghmore ; 392 b.

magnificent sepulchral oratory or sa- 8 from bottom, Columesii; 400 b. last line, cellum, in which a priest used to pray for dele which ; 405 b. 95 read Dot ; 407 4. the souls of himself and his wife. The two 34, read 6 min. 29 sec. ; 37, read 9 min. sombs at Broadwater, and this at Boxgrove, 6 sec.

THE

GENTLEMAN'S MAGAZINE.

DECEMBER, 1825.

ORIGINAL COMMUNICATIONS.

DESCENDANTS OF THE PRINCESS MARY TUDOR.

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Mr. URBAN, Paris, Dec. 17. coheir Margaret, married to Wm. IN N your Mag. for Nov. the Editor Brownlow, of Humby, co. Linc. esq.

or DEBRETT's PEERAGE calls on from whom descended Sir John Brownthe author of an article signed a Ge- low of Belton, bart. whose daughter NEALOGIST, containing animadversions and coheir Jane married Peregrine Beron his work, to make good, in your tie, 2d Duke of_Ancaster, whose son present month, certain statements he Peregrine, 3d Duke, was father of has sent forth, at the peril of being con- Lady Willoughby and the Marchionvicted of having asserted what he can- ess of Cholmondeley. not prove ! Nothing is more easy than From another coheir of Brownlow to accept and carry to a successsul issue came the mother of Francis North, Ist this challenge. But your Magazine only Earl of Guilford, whose grandson Geo. reached me on Thursday evening, the 3d Earl, was mother of the present 15th, and yesterday having written a Marchioness of Bute. reply extending to a sheet, it struck me Now these are not the mere junior on folding it up, that its length would descendants hunted through a variety exclude its insertion, since it could not of changes of name and family, but reach till the 20th or 21st. I have the direct and chIEF HEIRS, deriv. therefore suppressed what I had writ- ing through great historical houses ! ten; and must confine myself to the What else I have to say, if I shall strictest limits in the reply of this think it worth while to say any more, month *.

after this specimen of my opponent's I request your readers to look to the intelligence and self-confidence, inust confidence and defiance of this chal- be reserved for another month, -exlenge. See how completely a very cept that I must not omit to assure simple and well-known tale will put Debrelt's Editor, that I had not the him down! He taunts me to show most remote idea of his name and vothat Lady Willoughby, the Marchion- cation, till at least a month after my ess Cholmondeley, the young Mar- cominunication to you, which was sent chioness Bute, and Lord Guilford, are from Paris on 22d July. I learned his the descendants of the Princess Mary name with some surprise from a genTudor! He appeals to such of your tleman who came from England on or readers as are conversant with the ge- after the 4th of Sept. nealogies of our nobility; - among I consider the notice of this fact eswhom, however, I never yet met with sential, because I deem it utterly unope not familiar with the following justifiable to be influenced in the cri. facts, which he ventures thus to call tique of a book by personalities extrin. in question.

sic to that book. I drew my inferences Ferdinando Stanley, Earl of Derby, solely from the matter of the book itheir of the body of Lady Eleanor, self. That matter cannot be denied youngest daughter and coheir of the to be public game. He who prints Princess Mary Tudor, left issue Lady what is circulated and sold is surely not Anne, his eldest daughter and coheir, unamenable to public question for what married to Grey Brydges, 5th Lord he asserts. The matter of my reply is Chandos, whose son and heir George, as open to attack, as the pages of Der 6th Lord Chandos, left a daughter and breti's Editor. My writings are pub,

A Table of the Descendants from the Princess Mary Tudor has since been received from this Correspondent, and shall appear in our next.

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Descendants of the Princess Mary Tudor. [Dec. lic property; they are open to any of a sentence which he cites. If I aninadversion which Debrett's Edio wrote it so, which perhaps I did tor can make on them, consistent (though I rather think it was an with good faith and decency of man- abridged extract from my communi. ner. I come forward without a cation), the whole error consists in the mask, and subscribe my name to this hasty writing of the word “Asthe article. I thought Debrett's Peerage last instance, instead of “UNDERthe not only not improved, but badly edit. last instance. ed,-merely by an examination of its I beg to state, that nothing shall contents ; not guessing who the editor draw me into any personal conwas: I think so still: but I am now test with Debrett's Editor, especially surprised at it; because I am assured since I know his name: I will reserve by those in whose judgment I put faith, the right of detecting the errors of his that the Editor is fully competent to his work, because that is public property, task : his vocation qualifies him for it, if I think them worth notice. and I must therefore attribute his de- Mr. Charles Butler in his most es. fects to carelessness.

cellent and delightful “ReminiscenHe talks of my genealogical incapa- ces" says, It is a great satisfaction city and ignorance. The signature of to him io reflect that none of his writmy name will be a ready index to the ings contain a single line of personal proof of it, if the charge be true. The hostility to any one." I cannot prematter is spread over a wide space, and tend to make this boast ;-) wish I he has a large field to select from. He could ;-but I will at least take care, calls in question also my literary skill : now that age requires repose, not to in which department his opportunities indulge without discrimination in aniof proof are equally copious. He is very mosities unworthy of me ! jocose about the awkard construction

Samuel Egerton BRYDGES.

Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 3. inform him, that not only do all four Editor of Peerage descend from her lineally in blood, but asks, in p422how Wil- that all four are entitled to quarter her loughby d'Eresby, Lady Cholmondely, arms, and that Lady Willoughby is seLady Bute, and Lord Guilford, are nior coheir of the body of her youngest descended from the French Queen, daughter Eleanor, Countess of CumDuchess of Suffolk. I beg leave to berland, whose only child

Lady Margaret Clifford. Henry Stanley, Earl of Derby.

Ferdinandn, Earl of Derby. T

Lady Anne Stanley, eldest coheir. TGrey Brydges, Lord Chandos.

Margaret Brydges, only child from whom issue remains. Wm. Brownlow, esq.

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Lady Willoughby and Marquis of Lady Bute and her sisters heirs general.
Lady Cholmondely. Exeter.

Earl of Guilford heir male to Alicia Brownlow. Among additional impending and glesea, the next Earls of Derby and probable disseminations of the blood Howe, the next Lords Bagot, Forresof Henry VII. among British Peers, I ter, and Delamere. If the Earldoms beg leave to mention, in the direct of Ferrers and Pomfret descend from line, the next Duke of Norfolk, save their present possessors collaterally, the one, the next Dukes of Somerset, next, save ove, enjoying each title will Beaufort, Bedford, Marlborough, and be invested with this peculiarly illusManchester, the next Marquis of An- trious lineage. Three of our Baronets

1825.] Stemmata Tudorica suggested.-Croft Family. 485 immediately suggest themselves to me enthusiasm, would ensure to any one as descending from the great Lady in disposed and qualified to undertake it question,- Wrottesley, Wynne, and a remunerating subscription, and paSydney. Although Sir J. Lowther tient liberality in the line of imparting and Sir G. Heathcoate do not, their information. sons do.

Can any Correspondent tell me wheI much wish that the Stemmata ther any issue exists from any of the Regalia Tudorica were published on three daughters and coheirs of Wm. the same plan as the Stemmata Chi- Brydges, 7th Baron Chandos, who cheleiana. 'I am of opinion that this died in 1676? Thence would be work might be made exclusively com- clearly additional descents from the prehensive. I should conceive that French Queen. personal feeling, if not genealogical THE RAJAH OF VANNEPLYSIA.

Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 12. traced the descent of four noblemen ; THE Edube welle lacquainted with HE Editor of Debrett's Peerage is but why he should pass over the de

scendants of Anne, the eldest daughthe fact, that Ferdinando, Earl of ter, I cannot conceive. It is from the Derby, had issue three daughters and said Anne that the illustrious individucoheirs ; Anne, eldest daughter; Fran- als, the Marchionesses of Cholmondely ces, 2d daughter; and Elizabeth. From and Bute, &c. &c. mentioned by the Frances, the second daughter, Debrett's Genealogist, are descended, as apEditor, in your last Magazine, has pears from the annexed Pedigree. Henry, 4th Earl of Derby. F Margaret, only child of Henry Clifford, Earl of Cumberland.

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Dec. 9.

Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 14. Bart. is said to have had a son Arthur, correctness a most

for which read Archer.-3. The same and Baronetages, the following errors heard-of date, Dec. 18, 1753-4, for in the title of Croft of Croft Castle in which read Dec. 10, 1753. (Gent. “Debrett's Baronetage,” ought to Mag. xxIII. 590.) 'That the geneahe noticed: 1. In the edition of 1819, logy of this family has always been in Herbert, grandson of Sir Herbert the some obscurity, may be seen by a leta first Baronet, was made to be born ter in vol. lxxvi. i. 115. N.O. and married on the self-same day, May 10, 1749; in that of 1824, the appa

Mr. URBAN, rent double having been discovered, S some workmen last winter were his birth, whereas, by reference to situated near the creek of Milton, beGent. Mag. xix. 236, it will

be found tween that town and Sittingbourne, in to be that of his marriage. The same the latter parish, about two hundred gentleman, who was Receiver of the yards North of the London road, they Charter House and father of the Rev. discovered several human skeletons Sir Herbert, (5th bart.) author of the about three feet deep, lying with their Life of Young, died at his son's at feet to the East; and some pieces of Tutbury, Staff. after a decline of some iron, which appear to have been spear months, July 7, 1785, aged 67. (Gent. heads, swords, &c. The largest of Mag. Lv. 573./2. Sir Archer, the 2d these is about 14 inches long, some of

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* This descent being the same as that detailed by the preceding Correspondent, we have omitted it.-Edit.

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Antiquities discovered at Millon, Kent.

[Dec. the wood is still remaining on the such high antiquity as he has laboured handle. A thin brass plate was also to establish with regard to some disfound of an oblong form, the convex coveries made near Charteris in the side engraved with a device, somewhat Isle of Ely, as described in your Maresembling a rose, probably an orna- gazine for Mareh, 1766; one of the ment for a sword-belt, or breast-plate. beads now discovered may help us in Soon after an urn was dug up, made of the conjecture, as it exactly resembles lead-coloured earth, with two small those he mentions as cominonly calliron boxes, which contained beads of ed Snake-stones, of which an engravbaked earth, coloured glass, amulets, ing is given in the plate of British glass bugles, amethyst pendants, pieces Antiquities in “Camden's Britannia.” of brass wire, a buckle of copper gilt, Should they be supposed Danish, the a thin piece of silver of the size of a supposition may be borne out with half-crown, stamped with irregular some degree of plausibility; for at the figures, with two holes perforated, as distance of a mile across the creek to the if to suspend it; a copper coin, the North, in the parish of Milton, are the impression obliterated, and a piece of remains of the fortress, now called Case gold, probably part of a bracelet or tle-rough, which Hastings the Danish necklace, of a circular form, chased pirate built when he came to plunder at one end, the other showing where the neighbouring country in the year it was broken asunder. This was car- 893. King Alfred, some time afterwards, ried by the workmen to a neighbour- in order to stop these incursions of the ing watchmaker and offered for sale; Danes, built over against this fortificanot satisfied with the price bid for it, tion, on the opposite or eastern side of they took it to a Jew at Chatham, and the creek, another fort, in the parish of sold it, I have been informed, for gl.; Sittingbourne, called Bayford Castle it was doubtless very soon consigned (Hasted, Hist. of Kent). But it does to the crucible. It weighed three not appear that the Danes remained ounces. Fragments of urns of all sorts long enough in this neighbourhood to and sizes, some of a lead colour, some carry on their depredations with much of a red, the larger ones of a coarse success, and it cannot therefore be well black earth, mixed with fragments of imagined that such extent of ground as shells and sea-sand, surrounded with a burying-place (for doubtless such the ashes and calcined matter, continued urns with human bones declare it to to be dug up daily, as well as a quan- be) was used by them. It should theretity of bones and teeth of animals. Four fore seem more likely to have been used or five urns were taken up whole, full by the Romans; at what period it canof ashes and burnt bones.

not yet be ascertained, until more coins, In a brick yard, two or three fields and those less obliterated than what have South-east of this spot, which had been already dug up, be found to illasbeen used for several years, were found trate it. If this conjecture be admitted, at the same time a square-formed iron might not these discoveries serve to fix chest or box containing bones and the station of Durolevum of the Itineashes, which fell to pieces in the taking rary, which has been so long in dispute up, and a quantity of fragments of urns, among the learned. Dr. Horseley, in his with two nearly whole, the largest of Brit. Rom. p. 425, seems inclined to which is of a smooth brown-coloured place this stalion to the North side of earth, of an uncommon shape. Al the great London road to Dover, and though it was taken up tolerably per- to suppose it a short and direct excorsect, it has been impossible to preserve sion, the distance requiring the excurit whole; its diameter is about 10 inches. sion to be made about Sittingbourne and

One of the workmen informed me, Milton. In placing it at Sittingbourne that in sinking a well about three years he is followed by Talbot, Baxter, and ago, a little to the North-east, a great Stukeley, and at Milton by Ward: Bp. number of such fragments were dug Gibson would have it at Bapchild ; likeup. Now, we may fairly conclude, that wise Camden, although he is better this was a burying-place to a consider- pleased with Lenham, and would change able extent. Whether these remains the name Durolevum into Durolenum be British, Roman, Danish, or Saxon, for that purpose. Somner, Battely, it may be difficult to decide. If it be Thorpe, and others, suppose it to have thought worth while to use the argu- been at Newington, near which antiments of Dr. Stukeley to prove them of quities have been discovered, and prove

that

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