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THE

GENTLEMAN'S MAGAZINE.

DECEMBER, 1825.

ORIGINAL COMMUNICATIONS.

DESCENDANTS OF THE PRINCESS MARY TUDOR.

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Mr. URBAN, Paris, Dec. 17. coheir Margaret, married to Win. N

of DEBRETT'S PEERAGE calls on from whom descended Sir John Brownthe author of an article signed a Ge- low of Belton, bart. whose daughter NEALOGIST, containing animadversions and coheir Jane married Peregrine Beron his work, to make good, in your tie, 2d Duke of Ancaster, whose son present month, certain statements he Peregrine, 3d Dake, was father of has sent forth, at the peril of being con- Lady Willoughby and the Marchionvicted of having asserted what he can ess of Cholmondeley. not prove ! Nothing is more easy than From another coheir of Brownlow to accept and carry to a successful issue came the mother of Francis North, 1st this challenge. But your Magazine only Earl of Guilford, whose grandson Geo. reached me on Thursday evening, the 3d Earl, was mother of the present -15th, and yesterday having written a Marchioness of Bute. reply extending to a sheet, it struck.me - Now these are not the mere junior on folding it up, that its length would descendants hunted through a variety exclude its insertion, since it could not of changes of name and family, but reach till the 201h or 21st. I have the direct and chIEF HEIRS, derivtherefore suppressed what I had writ- ing through great historical houses ! ten; and must confine myself to the What else I have to say, if I shall strictest limits in the reply of this think it worth while to say any more, month*.

after this specimen of my opponent's I request your readers to look to the intelligence and self-confidence, inust confidence and defiance of this chal. be reserved for another month, -exlenge. See how completely a very cept that I must not omit to assure simple and well-known tale" will put Debrell's Editor, that I had not the him down! He taunts me to show most remote idea of his name and vo. that Lady Willoughby, the Marchion, cation, till at least a month after my ess Cholmondeley, the young Mare cominunication to you, which was sent chioness Bute, and Lord Guilford, are from Paris on 22d July. I learned his the descendants of the Princess Mary name with some surprise from a genTudor! He appeals to such of your tleman who came from England on or readers as are conversant with the ge- after the 4th of Sept. nealogies of our nobility; - among

I consider the notice of this fact eswhom, however, I never yet met with sential, because I deem it utterly unone not familiar with the following justifiable to be influenced in the cri. facts, which he ventures thus to call tique of a book by personalities extrinin question.

sic to that book. "I drew my inferences Ferdinando Stanley, Earl of Derby, solely from the matter of ihe book itheir of the body of Lady Eleanor, self. That matter cannot be denied youngest daughter and coheir of the to be public game. He who prints Princess Mary Tudor, left issue Lady what is circulated and sold is surely not Anne, his eldest daughter and coheir, unamenable to public question for what married to Grey Brydges, 5th Lord he asserts. The matter of my reply is Chandos, whose son and heir George, as open to attack, as the pages of Den 6th Lord Chandos, left a daughter and · breli's Editor. My writings are pub,

A Table of the Descendants from the Princess Mary Tudor has since been received from this Correspondent, and shall appear in our next.

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Descendants of the Princess Mary Tudor. [Dec. lic property ; they are open to any of a sentence which he cites. If I animadversion which Debrett's Ediwrote it so, which perhaps I did tor can make on them, consistent (though I rather think it was an with guod faith and decency of man- abridged extract from my communi

I come forward without a cation), the whole error consists in the mask, and subscribe my name to this hasty writing of the word “As” the article. I thought Délrett's Peerage lust instance, instead of “UNDERthe not only not improved, but badly edit- last instance. ed,-merely by an examination of its I beg to state, that nothing shall contents ; not guessing who the editor draw me into any personal conwas: I think so still: but I am now test with Debrell's Editor, especially surprised at it; because I am assured since I know his name: I will reserve by those in whose judgment I put faith, the right of detecting the errors of his that the Editor is fully competent to his work, because that is public property, task : his vocation qualifies him for it, if I think them worth notice. and. I must therefore attribute his de Mr. Charles Butler in his most exfects to carelessness.

cellent and delightful “ ReminiscenHe talks of my genealogical incapa- ces" says, It is a great satisfaction city and ignorance. The signature of to him to reflect that none of his writmy name will be a ready index to the ings contain a single line of personal proof of it, if the charge be true. The hostility to any one." I cannot prematter is spread over a wide space, and tend to make this boast ;-) wish I he has a large field to select from. He could ;-but I will at least take care, calls in question also my literary skill: now that age requires repose, not to in which department his opportunities indulge without discrimination in aniof proof are equally copious. He is very mosities unworthy of me ! jocose about the awkard construction

Samuel Egerton Bridges.

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Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 3.

inform him, that not only do all fout 'HE Editor of Debrett's Peerage descend from her lineally in blood, but

that all four are entitled to quarter her Joughby d’Eresby, Lady Cholmondely, arms, and that Lady Willoughby is seLady Bute, and Lord Guilford, are nior coheir of the body of her youngest descended from the French Queen, daughter Eleanor, Countess of CumDuchess of Suffolk. I beg leave to berland, whose only child

Lady Margaret Clifford. FHenry Stanley, Earl of Derby.

Ferdinando, Earl of Derby.

Lady Anne Stanley, eldest coheir. FGrey Brydges, Lord Chandos.

Margaret Brydges, only child from whom issue remains. FWm. Brownlow, esq.

Sir Richard Brownlow, bart.

Sir Jolin Brownlow, bart. had no issue male. I
Jane. Peregrine, D. of Elizabeth. TJohn, E. of

Alicia. Francis, Lord
Ancaster.
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Guilford.
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Lady Willoughby and Marquis of Lady Bute and her sisters heirs general.
Lady Cholmondely. Exeter.

Earl of Guilford heir maleto Alicia Brownlow. Among additional impending and glesea, the next Earls of Derby and probable disseminations of the blood Howe, the next Lords Bagol, Forresof Henry VII. among British Peers, I ter, and Delamere. If the Earldoms beg leave to mention, in the direct of Ferrers and Pomfret descend from line, the next Duke of Norfolk, save their present possessors collaterally, the one, the next Dukes of Somerset,

next, save one, enjoying each title will Beaufort, Bedford, Marlborough, and be invested with this peculiarly illusManchester, the next Marquis of An- trious lineage.' Three of our Baronets.

1825.] Stemmata Tudorica suggested.-Croft Family.

485 immediately suggest themselves to me enthusiasm, would ensure to any one as descending from the great Lady in disposed and qualified to undertake it question,- Wrottesley, Wynne, and a remunerating subscription, and paSydney. Although Sir J. Lowther tient liberality in the line of imparting and Sir G. Heathcoate do not, their information. sons do.

Can any Correspondent tell me wheI much wish that the Stemmata ther any issue exists from any of the Regalia Tudoricn were published on three daughters and coheirs of Wm. the same plan as the Stemmata Chi- Brydges, 7th Baron Chandos, who cheleiana. "I am of opinion that this died in 1676? Thence would be work might be made exclusively com- clearly additional descents from the prehensive. I should conceive that French Queen. personal feeling, if not genealogical THE RAJAH OF VANNEPLYSIA.

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Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 12. traced the descent of four, noblemen; THE HE Editor of Debrett's Peerage is but why he should pass over the de

no doubt well acquainted with scendants of Anne, the eldest daughthe fact, that Ferdinando, Earl of ter, I cannot conceive. It is from the Derby, had issue three daughters and said Anne that the illustrious individucoheirs ; Anne, eldest daughter; Fran- als, the Marchionesses of Cholmondely ces, 2d daughter; and Elizabeth. From and Bute, &c. &c. mentioned by the Frances, the second daughter, Debrett's GenealogIST, are descended, as apEditor, in your last Magazine, has pears from the annexed Pedigree. Henry, 4th Earl of Derby. ŞMargaret, only child of Henry Clifford, Earl of Cumberland.

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Dec. 9.

Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 14. Bart. is said to have had a son Arthur,

for which read Archer.-3. The same ESTEEMI OG.corectness peerages

desirable object in our Peerages 2d bart. is said to have died on the unand Baronetages, the following errors heard-of date, Dec. 18, 1753-4, for in the title of Croft of Croft Castle in which read Dec. 10, 1753. (Gent. “Debrett's BARONETAGE,” ought to Mag. XXIII. 590.). 'That the geneahe noticed : 1. In the edition of 1819, logy of this family has always been in Herbert, grandson of Sir Herbert the some obscurity, may be seen by a letfirst Baronet, was made to be born ter in vol. Lxxvi. i. 115. N.O. and married on the self-same day, May 10, 1749; in that of 1824, the appa

Mr. URBAN, rent double having been discovered, S some workmen last winter were his birth, whereas, by reference to situated near the creek of Milton, beGent. Mag. xix. 236, it will

be found tween that town and Sittingbourne, in to be that of his marriage. The same the latter parish, about two hundred gentleman, who was Receiver of

the yards North of the London road, they Charter House and father of the Rev. discovered several human skeletons Sir Herbert, (5th bart.) author of the about three feet deep, lying with their Life of Young, died at his son's at feet to the East; and some pieces of

Tutbury, Staff. after a decline of some iron, which appear to have been spear months, July 7, 1785, aged 67. (Gent. heads, swords, &c. The largest of Mag. Lv. 573.)—2. Sir Archer, the 2d' these is about 14 inches long, some of

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* This descent being the same as that detailed by the preceding Correspondent, we have omitted it.-Edit.

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Antiquities discovered at Milton, Kent.

(Dec. the wood is still remaining on the such high antiquity as be has laboured handle. A thin brass plate was also to establish with regard to some disfound of an oblong form, the conrex coveries made near Charteris in the side engraved with a device, somewhat Isle of Ely, as described in your Maresembling a rose, probably an orna- gazine for March, 1766 ; one of the ment for a sword-belt, or breast-plate. beads now discovered may help us in Soon after an urn was dug up, made of the conjecture, as it exactly resembles lead-coloured earth, with two small those he mentions as commonly calliron boxes, which contained beads of ed Snake-stones, of which an engrarbaked earth, eoloured glass, amulets, ing is given in the plate of British glass bugles, amethyst pendants, pieces Antiquities in “Camden's Britannia.” of brass wire, a buckle of copper gilt, Should they be supposed Danish, the a thin piece of silver of the size of a supposition may be borne out with 'half-crown, stamped with irregular some degree of plausibility; for at the figures, with two holes perforated, as distance of a mile across the creek to the if to suspend it; a copper coin, the North, in the parish of Milton, are the impression obliterated, and a piece of remains of the fortress, now called Cas. gold, probably part of a bracelet or tle-rough, which Hastings the Danish necklace, of a circular form, chased pirate built when he came to plunder at one end, the other showing where the neighbouring country in the year it was broken asunder. This was car 893. King Alfred, some tiine afterwards, ried by the workmen to a neighbour- in order to stop these incursions of the ing watchmaker and offered for sale; Danes, built over against this fortifica. not satisfied with the price bid for it, tion, on the opposite or eastern side of they took it to a Jew ai Chatham, and the creek, another fort, in the parish of sold it, I have been informed, for gl. ; Sittingbourne, called Bayford Castle it was doubtless very soon consigned (Hasted, Hist. of Kent). But it does to the crucible. It weighed three pot appear that the Danes remained ounces. Fragments of urns of all sorts long enough in this neighbourhood to and sizes, some of a lead colour, some carry on their depredations with much of a red, the larger ones of a coarse success, and it cannot therefore be well black earth, mixed with fragments of imagined that such extent of ground as shells and sea-sand, surrounded with a burying-place (for doubtless such the ashes and calcined, matter, continued urns with human bones declare it to to be dug up daily, as well as a quan- be) was used by them. It should theretity of bones and teeth of animals. Four fore seem more likely to have been used or five urns were taken up whole, full by the Romans; at what period it canof ashes and burnt bones.

not yet be ascertained, until more coins, In a brick yard, two or three fields and those less obliterated than what have Souih-east of this spot, which had been already dug up, be found to illusbeen used for several years, were found trate it. If this conjecture be admitted, at the same timne a square-formed iron might not these discoveries serve to fix chest or box containing bones and the station of Durolevum of the Itineashes, which fell to pieces in the taking rary, which has been so long in dispute up, and a quantity of fragments of urns, among the learned. Dr. Horseley, in bis with two nearly whole, the largest of Brit. Rom. p. 425, seems inclined to which is of a smooth brown-coloured place this station to the North side of earth, of an uncommon shape. Al. ihe great London road to Dover, and though it was taken up tolerably per

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it a short and direct excurseçt, it has been impossible to preserve sion, ihe distance requiring the excurit whole; its diameter is about 10 inches. sion to be made about Sittingbourne and

One of the workmen informed me, Milton. In placing it at Sittingbourne that in sinking a well about three years he is followed by Talbot, Baxter, and ago, a little to the North-east, a great Stukeley, and at Milton by Ward. Bp. number of such fragments were dug Gibson would have it at Bapchild ; likeup. Now, we may fairly conclude, that wise Camden, although he is better this was a burying-place to a consider- pleased with Lenham, and would change able extent. Wheiher these remains the naine Durolevum into Durolenum be British, Roman, Danish, or Saxon, for that purpose. · Somner, Battely, it may be difficult to decide. If it bé Thorpe, and others, suppose it to have thought worth while to use the argu- been at Newington, near which antiments of Dr. Stukeley to prove them of quities have been discovered, and prove

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1925.] Epitaph on Thomas Sheridan.-Chronology of Herodotus. 487 that the Romans occupied the country British Drama. This tablet is put up in 1823 in the vicinity. Others, presuming on by a passenger through the Isle of Thanet, the incorrectness of the Itinerary in in admiration of the intellect, though a this instance, have placed it at Judde stranger to the blood of the Sheridan family: Hill, near Ospringe'; and adds Hasted. Who builds a Church to God, and not to in his History of Kent, “Every other

fame, place has but inere conjecture, unsup

Never inscribes the niarble with his name.' ported by any remains of Roman antiquity ever found in or near it." W.V. Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 20.

IN N the following disquisition I shall Mr. URBAN,

Nov. 11.

endeavour to deterinine the Chrom PASSING the samner at Broad nology of the Historical Events record

stairs, in one of my rambles to ed by Herodotus, between the battles the surrounding villages, I copied the of Marathon and Salamis. Herodotus, following inscription, written by the as being the inost ancient of the Greek late Dr. Parr, to the memory of the Historians, and as reciting his works father of the Right Hon. 'Richard only about 35 years, or less, after the Brinsley Sheridan, from a tablet erect- last battle, is the only ancient author ed two years since in St. Peter's Church whom I shall consult; and I think I in the Isle of Thanet, of which the can fully prove from his words that following is a representation.

there were eleven years between the two above-mentioned battles.

Our author then having described the battle of Marathon in his Erato, commences his Polymniathus; “When Darius heard of the battle fought at Marathon, he became much more indignant with the Athenians; and more eager to carry on the war against Greece. He immediately sent messengers to the several parts of his dominions, enjoining every one to prepare a greater number of forces than before. These com

mands being sent around, Asia was Interred near this spot, on the 21st of Au- thrown into agitation for three whole gust, 1788, rest the mortal remains of

years (ISOLEETO ŠTO tpic item); but in the THOMAS SHERIDAN, Esq. A.M. following year ( TETOPTW ÉTE)

Egypt reAuthor of “ Lectures on Education,” deli- volted from the Persians.” 'C. I. vered at the University of Oxforrl, and di “When all things were prepared for vers other useful works : all tending to en

his expeditions to Greece and Egypt, a lighten and ameliorate mankind. In illustrating human nature upon the Stage, the great contest arose between his song mirror he held was as true as his private life the succession of the kingdom. Arta

(Xerxes and Artabazanes) concerning was exemplary. Indebted oothing to favour, bazanes was the eldest of three sons, his professional celebrity was the meed of only his own merit. He played his part

whom he had by the daughter of Gowith distinction as an Actor; as a man he bryas, before he was elected King; closed a long career without mortal stain. Xerxes of four, the sons of Darius by He was honoured in his descent, and re Atossa, the daughter of Cyrus, who nowned in his issue. His father had to were born after Darius's accession to boast the friendship of no less a name than the throne.” C.2. JONATHAN Swift, of whom the subject of “Darius had not yet declared his this tribute published a pious, grateful, faith- opinion, when Deinaratus, the son of ful biography. His son, the immortalizer Ariston, who had been deprived of the of their race, the Right Honourable Richard kingdom of Sparta (by the intrigues Brinsley Sheridan (besides having culti- of his colleague Cleomenes. See Erato. to the standard of Athenian perfection than C.70, &c.) happened to come to Susa."

This any even of the mighty orators whom a rare person having heard of the concoincidence had made his contemporaries) troversy, suggested to Xerxes, that it adorned Literature with such proofs of ra was customary at Sparta, that if some diaut genius, as are sure to live with the children were born before their father life, and to die only with the death of the was made king, but another later when

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