THE GENTLEMAN'S MAGAZINE. DECEMBER, 1825. ORIGINAL COMMUNICATIONS. Mr. URBAN, Paris, Dec. 17. coheir Margaret, married to Win. from whom Brownlow, descended sir John Brown. low of Belton, bart. whose daughter and coheir Jane married Peregrine Bertie, 2d Duke of Ancaster, whose son Peregrine, 3d Duke, was father of Lady Willoughby and the Marchioness of Cholmondeley. From another coheir of Brownlow came the mother of Francis North, 1st Earl of Guilford, whose grandson Geo. 3d Earl, was mother of the present Marchioness of Bute. IN your Mag. for Nov. the EDITOR PEERAGE calls on the author of an article signed a GENEALOGIST, Containing animadversions on his work, to make good, in your present month, certain statements he has sent forth, at the peril of being convicted of having asserted what he cannot prove! Nothing is more easy than to accept and carry to a successful issue this challenge. But your Magazine only reached me on Thursday evening, the 15th, and yesterday having written a Now these are not the mere junior reply extending to a sheet, it struck.me on folding it up, that its length would descendants hunted through a variety exclude its insertion, since it could not of changes of name and family, but reach you till the 20th or 21st. I have the DIRECT and CHIEF HEIRS, deriv therefore suppressed what I had writ- ing through great historical houses! ten; and must confine myself to the strictest limits in the reply of this month*. I request your readers to look to the confidence and defiance of this challenge. See how completely a very simple and well-known tale will put him down! He taunts me to show that Lady Willoughby, the Marchioness Cholmondeley, the young Marchioness Bute, and Lord Guilford, are the descendants of the Princess Mary Tudor! He appeals to such of your readers as are conversant with the genealogies of our nobility; among whom, however, I never yet met with one not familiar with the following facts, which he ventures thus to call in question. Ferdinando Stanley, Earl of Derby, heir of the body of Lady Eleanor, youngest daughter and coheir of the Princess Mary Tudor, left issue Lady Anne, his eldest daughter and coheir, married to Grey Brydges, 5th Lord Chandos, whose son and heir George, 6th Lord Chandos, left a daughter and -ex What else I have to say, if I shall think it worth while to say any more, after this specimen of my opponent's intelligence and self-confidence, must be reserved for another month,cept that I must not omit to assure Debrett's Editor, that I had not the most remote idea of his name and vocation, till at least a month after my communication to you, which was sent from Paris on 22d July. I learned his name with some surprise from a gentleman who came from England on or after the 4th of Sept. I consider the notice of this fact essential, because I deem it utterly unjustifiable to be influenced in the critique of a book by personalities extrinsic to that book. drew my inferences solely from the matter of the book itself. That matter cannot be denied to be public game. He who prints what is circulated and sold is surely not unamenable to public question for what The matter of my reply is he asserts. as open to attack, as the pages of Debrett's Editor. My writings are pub * A Table of the Descendants from the Princess Mary Tudor has since been received from this Correspondent, and shall appear in our next. lic 484 Descendants of the Princess Mary Tudor. lic property; they are open to any animadversion which Debrett's Editor can make on them, consistent with good faith and decency of manner. I come forward without a mask, and subscribe my name to this article. I thought Debrett's Peerage not only not improved, but badly edited,—merely by an examination of its contents; not guessing who the editor was: I think so still but I am now surprised at it; because I am assured by those in whose judgment I put faith, that the Editor is fully competent to his task his vocation qualifies him for it, and. I must therefore attribute his defects to carelessness. He talks of my genealogical incapacity and ignorance. The signature of my name will be a ready index to the proof of it, if the charge be true. The matter is spread over a wide space, and he has a large field to select from. He calls in question also my literary skill: in which department his opportunities of proof are equally copious. He is very jocose about the awkard construction [Dec. of a sentence which he cites. If I wrote it so, which perhaps I did—— (though I rather think it was an abridged extract from my communication), the whole error consists in the hasty writing of the word "AS" the last instance, instead of "UNDER" the last instance. I beg to state, that nothing shall draw me into any personal contest with Debrett's Editor, especially since I know his name: I will reserve the right of detecting the errors of his work, because that is public property, if I think them worth notice. Mr. Charles Butler in his most excellent and delightful "Reminiscences" says, "It is a great satisfaction to him to reflect that none of his writings contain a single line of personal hostility to any one." I cannot pretend to make this boast;-I wish I could;-but I will at least take care, now that age requires repose, not to indulge without discrimination in animosities unworthy of me! SAMUEL EGERTON BRYDGES. inform him, that not only do all four descend from her lineally in blood, but that all four are entitled to quarter her arms, and that Lady Willoughby is senior coheir of the body of her youngest daughter Eleanor, Countess of Cumberland, whose only child Henry Stanley, Earl of Derby. Lady Anne Stanley, eldest coheir.—Grey Brydges, Lord Chandos. Margaret Brydges, only child from whom issue remains. Wm. Brownlow, esq. Lady Bute and her sisters heirs general. glesea, the next Earls of Derby and 1825.] Stemmata Tudorica suggested.-Croft Family. immediately suggest themselves to me as descending from the great Lady in question,-Wrottesley, Wynne, and Sydney. Although Sir J. Lowther and Sir G. Heathcoate do not, their sons do. I much wish that the Stemmata Regalia Tudorica were published on the same plan as the Stemmata Chicheleiana. I am of opinion that this work might be made exclusively comprehensive. I should conceive that personal feeling, if not genealogical 485 enthusiasm, would ensure to any one disposed and qualified to undertake it a remunerating subscription, and patient liberality in the line of imparting information. Can any Correspondent tell me whether any issue exists from any of the three daughters and coheirs of Wm. Brydges, 7th Baron Chandos, who died in 1676? Thence would be clearly additional descents from the French Queen. THE RAJAH OF VANNEPLYSIA. traced the descent of four, noblemen; Margaret, only child. William Brownlow, esq.* Mr. URBAN, E Dec. 14. STEEMING correctness a most desirable object in our Peerages and Baronetages, the following errors in the title of Croft of Croft Castle in "DEBRETT'S BARONETAGE," ought to be noticed: 1. In the edition of 1819, Herbert, grandson of Sir Herbert the first Baronet, was made to be born and married on the self-same day, May 10, 1749; in that of 1824, the appa rent double having bly de over for that date was unluckily fixed on for his birth, whereas, by reference to Gent. Mag. XIX. 236, it will be found to be that of his marriage.-The same gentleman, who was Receiver of the Charter House and father of the Rev. Sir Herbert, (5th bart.) author of the Life of Young, died at his son's at Tutbury, Staff. after a decline of some months, July 7, 1785, aged 67. (Gent. Mag. Lv. 573.)-2. Sir Archer, the 2d * This descent being the same as that detailed by the preceding Correspondent, we have omitted it.-EDIT. the 486 Antiquities discovered at Milton, Kent. the wood is still remaining on the handle. A thin brass plate was also found of an oblong form, the convex side engraved with a device, somewhat resembling a rose, probably an ornament for a sword-belt, or breast-plate. Soon after an urn was dug up, made of lead-coloured earth, with two small iron boxes, which contained beads of baked earth, coloured glass, amulets, glass bugles, amethyst pendants, pieces of brass wire, a buckle of copper gilt, a thin piece of silver of the size of a half-crown, stamped with irregular figures, with two holes perforated, as if to suspend it; a copper coin, the impression obliterated, and a piece of gold, probably part of a bracelet or necklace, of a circular form, chased at one end, the other showing where it was broken asunder. This was carried by the workmen to a neighbouring watchmaker and offered for sale; not satisfied with the price bid for it, they took it to a Jew at Chatham, and sold it, I have been informed, for 9.; it was doubtless very soon consigned to the crucible. It weighed three ounces. Fragments of urns of all sorts and sizes, some of a lead colour, some of a red, the larger ones of a coarse black earth, mixed with fragments of shells and sea-sand, surrounded with ashes and calcined matter, continued to be dug up daily, as well as a quantity of bones and teeth of animals. Four or five urns were taken up whole, full of ashes and burnt bones. In a brick yard, two or three fields South-east of this spot, which had been used for several years, were found at the same time a square-formed iron chest or box containing bones and ashes, which fell to pieces in the taking up, and a quantity of fragments of urns, with two nearly whole, the largest of which is of a smooth brown-coloured earth, of an uncommon shape. Although it was taken up tolerably perfect, it has been impossible to preserve it whole; its diameter is about 10 inches. One of the workmen informed me, that in sinking a well about three years ago, a little to the North-east, a great number of such fragments were dug up. Now, we may fairly conclude, that this was a burying-place to a considerable extent. Whether these remains be British, Roman, Danish, or Saxon, it may be difficult to decide. If it be thought worth while to use the arguments of Dr. Stukeley to prove them of [Dec. such high antiquity as he has laboured to establish with regard to some discoveries made near Charteris in the Isle of Ely, as described in your Magazine for March, 1766; one of the beads now discovered may help us in the conjecture, as it exactly resembles those he mentions as commonly called Snake-stones, of which an engrav ing is given in the plate of British Antiquities in "Camden's Britannia.” Should they be supposed Danish, the supposition may be borne out with some degree of plausibility; for at the distance of a mile across the creek to the North, in the parish of Milton, are the remains of the fortress, now called Castle-rough, which Hastings the Danish pirate built when he came to plunder the neighbouring country in the year 893. King Alfred, some time afterwards, in order to stop these incursions of the Danes, built over against this fortification, on the opposite or eastern side of the creek, another fort, in the parish of Sittingbourne, called Bayford Castle (Hasted, Hist. of Kent). But it does not appear that the Danes remained long enough in this neighbourhood to carry on their depredations with much success, and it cannot therefore be well imagined that such extent of ground as a burying-place (for doubtless such the urns with human, bones declare it to be) was used by them. It should therefore seem more likely to have been used by the Romans; at what period it cannot yet be ascertained, until more coins, and those less obliterated than what have been already dug up, be found to illustrate it. If this conjecture be admitted, might not these discoveries serve to fix the station of Durolevum of the Itinerary, which has been so long in dispute among the learned. Dr. Horseley, in his Brit. Rom. p. 425, seems inclined to place this station to the North side of the great London road to Dover, and to suppose it a short and direct excursion, the distance requiring the excur sion to be made about Sittingbourne and Milton. In placing it at Sittingbourne he is followed by Talbot, Baxter, and Stukeley, and at Milton by Ward. Bp. Gibson would have it at Bapchild; likewise Camden, although he is better pleased with Lenham, and would change the name Durolevum into Durolenum for that purpose. Somner, Battely, Thorpe, and others, suppose it to have been at Newington, near which antiquities have been discovered, and prove that 1925.] Epitaph on Thomas Sheridan.-Chronology of Herodotus. that the Romans occupied the country in the vicinity. Others, presuming on the incorrectness of the Itinerary in this instance, have placed it at Judde Hill, near Ospringe; and adds Hasted in his History of Kent, "Every other place has but inere conjecture, unsupported by any remains of Roman antiquity ever found in or near it." W. V. Interred near this spot, on the 21st of August, 1788, rest the mortal remains of THOMAS SHERIDAN, Esq. A. M. Author of "Lectures on Education," delivered at the University of Oxford, and divers other useful works: all tending to enlighten and ameliorate mankind. In illustrating human nature upon the Stage, the mirror he held was as true as his private life was exemplary. Indebted nothing to favour, his professional celebrity was the meed of only his own merit. He played his part with distinction as an Actor; as a man he closed a long career without mortal stain. He was honoured in his descent, and renowned in his issue. His father had to boast the friendship of no less a name than JONATHAN SWIFT, of whom the subject of this tribute published a pious, grateful, faithful biography. His son, the immortalizer of their race, the Right Honourable Richard Brinsley Sheridan (besides having cultivated English eloquence in Parliament nearer to the standard of Athenian perfection than any even of the mighty orators whom a rare coincidence had made his contemporaries) adorned Literature with such proofs of radiaut genius, as are sure to live with the life, and to die only with the death of the British Drama. This tablet is put up în 1823 by a passenger through the Isle of Thanet, in admiration of the intellect, though a stranger to the blood of the Sheridan family: Who builds a Church to God, and not to fame, Never inscribes the marble with his name.' Dec. 20.. Mr. URBAN, the Chro nology of the Historical Events recorded by Herodotus, between the battles of Marathon and Salamis. Herodotus, as being the most ancient of the Greek Historians, and as reciting his works only about 35 years, or less, after the last battle, is the only ancient author whom I shall consult; and I think I can fully prove from his words that there were eleven years between the two above-mentioned battles. Our author then having described the battle of Marathon in his Erato, commences his Polymniathus; "When Darius heard of the battle fought at Marathon, he became much more indignant with the Athenians; and more eager to carry on the war against Greece. He immediately sent messengers to the several parts of his dominions, enjoining every one to prepare a greater number of forces than before. These commands being sent around, Asia was thrown into agitation for three whole years (ἐδοκεῖτο ἔπι τρια έτεα); but in the following year (TTapT IT) Egypt revolted from the Persians." C. I. "When all things were prepared for great contest arose between his sons his expeditions to Greece and Egypt, a Xerxes and Artabazanes) concerning the succession of the kingdom. Artabazanes was the eldest of three sons, whom he had by the daughter of Gobryas, before he was elected King; Xerxes of four, the sons of Darius by Atossa, the daughter of Cyrus, who were born after Darius's accession to the throne." C. 2. "Darius had not yet declared his opinion, when Deinaratus, the son of Ariston, who had been deprived of the kingdom of Sparta (by the intrigues of his colleague Cleomenes. See Erato. C. 70, &c.) happened to come to Susa." This person having heard of the controversy, suggested to Xerxes, that it was customary at Sparta, that if some children were born before their father was made king, but another later when he |