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served that in this case no revenge, none of the declined that and left them. He returned in usual incentives to commit crime, had influ about a quarter of an hour or twenty miuutes. enced the unhappy prisoners in committing The men remained. Mr. Mayhew had in the the murder, if it should appear they did com-interim got a body of police and apprehended mit that offence. It was solely a desire to them. When witness was leaving the room. possess themselves of a dead body, in order to Bishop said to him privately, "Pay me in dispose of it to the surgeons. presence of Williams only eight guineas, and give me privately the other guinea, and I will give you half-a-crown." The body was taken: to the police-office by Mr. Thomas; it had not been laid out, as there was no saw-dust on the back of the head.

Cross-examined by Mr. Curwood--Williams did not appear, and these conversations were in the presence of May and Bishop aloue. By Mr. Clarkson-The conversation about the 501. note was before Williams.

Wm. Hill examined by Mr. Clarkson-He stated that he was a porter at the dissectingroom of King's College; on the 5th of No vember last the bell of the gate rang at about a quarter-past twelve o'clock; found Bishop and May at the gate. Had known them before. When witness opened the door, May asked him if he wanted any thing; witness said, Not particularly. Asked him what he had got. He said a male subject. Witness asked of what size, and what price. He said it was Mr. Richard Partridge, demonstrator of a boy of 14, and that he wanted 12 guineas for anatomy at the King's College, was there on it. Witness said he did not want it much, but Saturday, the 5th of Nov. His attention was he would see Mr. Partridge, the demonstrator, first called to the body by Hill. Examined the who came down to see the body. Witness took external appearance of the body, aud found them to the room appropriated to them, and some marks and circumstances of suspicion. Mr. Partridge joined them. They did not then These were the swollen state of the jaw-the produce any body. There was a difference at blood-shot eyes-the freshness of the bodyfirst about the price, but witness afterwards rigidity of the limbs. There was likewise a cut agreed with them. May said they should have over the left temple. Looked at the lips, it for ten guineas. Mr. Partridge then left which were swollen. Noticed nothing else in witness alone with them. Wituess went to the appearance of the body. Witness went to Mr. Partridge to know whether he would the police before the 507. note was produced. decide upon having it. When witness re- On his return witness showed May and Bishop turned, he told them that Mr. Partridge would a note, at the bottom of the stairs leading to give them nine guineas for it. May said he the anatomical part of the college. Proposed would be d-d if it should come in for less that change should be got of the 507. note, with than ten; he was tipsy at the time. May a view to detain them till the police came. Saw went outside the door. Bishop then said to the body afterwards, when in the custody of witness, "Never mind May, he is drunk; it Mr. Thomas, in company with Mr. Beaman shall come in for nine, in half an hour." May and other geutlemen. The muscles were then was near enough to hear him. They then rigid. The wound on the temple was super went away, and returned in the afternoon, all ficial, and did not injure the bone. That was three together, with the porter Shields, who the only appearance of external injury; at least has been discharged. When witness saw them there was uo other external mark. Between the hamper was on the head of the porter. the scalp and the bone there was some blood They were received in a room, and May and congealed. On opening the body the whole of. Bishop took the hamper into another room, the contents of the chest and abdomen were in where they opened it; the body was in a sack; a healthy condition. Did not know what were May and Bishop said that it was a very fresh the contents of the stomach, which was filled. one; May was tipsy, and turned the body The si inal part of the brain at the back of the carelessly from the sack; saw that the body head and the whole brain were also examined; was fresh; but saw something else about it the brain was perfectly healthy as far back as which induced him to go to Mr. Partridge; the spine; in cutting through the skin and he asked them what the body had died of; muscles of the neck there was discovered a May said that that was no business of theirs great deal of coagulated blood, aud upon reor of witness's; it was not in such a form as moving the back part of the bouy caual which bodies usually are when taken from a coffin; concludes the spine of the back, a quantity of the left arm was bent, aud the fingers were congealed blood was also found in that; that clenched; witness told Mr. Partridge what he was opposite the place where the blood had had seen, and what he thought; Mr. P. been found in the muscles of the neck; unreturned and saw the body, without seeing congealed blood was also found in the rest of them; he examined the body, and went to the the spine; the spinal marrow or cord apsecretary. He returned to May and Bishop, peared perfectly healthy; thought that those and showed them a 501. note, telling them marks of violence were sufficient to have that he must get that changed and he would caused death. That violence had been exerted pay them. Bishop, seeing that Mr. Partridge which had affected the spinal cord. Believed had some gold in his purse, said,." Give me that those appearances had been caused by what money you have in your purse, and I, some violence on the back of the neck. Bewill call for the rest on Monday.' May also lieved that a blow from a stick would have offered to get change for it, but Mr. Partridge, produced similar effects. Could not say whe

ther that would produce instant death, but it certainly would have produced a rapid one. Cross-examined-Saw nothing in the external appearance that indicated a violent death. Spoke from belief, which was more than suspicion. Did not think that any other applications of force than a blow would have produced those appearances. A fall would have been a blow. Thought that it could not have been caused by a violent pressure of the knee or hand.

Re-examined by Mr. Bodkin-The heart was empty and the face flush.

By the Court-These appearances indicated that a person had died rather suddenly, aud in many cases, of a natural death.

Cross-examined by Mr. Barry-Did not think the body was dirty; did not cleanse any other part than the back of the neck; if a stick or heavy staff had been used on the back of the neck, it would have left some mark or external contusion, unless the boy had lived some time; believed that the emptiness of the heart and the flush state of the face might

to examine the spinal marrow, a quantity of. coagulated blood was lying in the canal, which, by pressure in the spinal marrow, must have caused death. There was no injury to the bone of the spine. All these appearance s, and the death, would have followed the blow of an obtuse instrument of any kind. The chest and the cavity were minutely examined. There was about an ounce of blood in the spinal canal. The heart was empty, which is very unusual, and denoted sudden death; meant nearly instantaneous death, in two or three minutes, and not longer. The stomach contained a tolerably full meal, which smelt slightly of rum, and digestion was going on at the time of death. Should think that death Mr. G. Beaman (by Mr. Adolphus), Sur-occurred about three hours after the meal, geon, of James-street, Covent-garden-First from the appearances. Removed the stomach. saw the body on the 5th of November, at 12 The centre of the stomach appeared perfectly o'clock at night. Examined it carefully. It healthy. Ascribed the death of the boy to a appeared to have died very recently. The wea- blow on the back of the neck, from the whole ther was then favourable to the preservation of of his examination, and verified by precisely bodies. By his judgment the body had not the same appearances as witness had seen on been dead more that 36 hours. The face ap animals. peared swollen; the eyes full, prominent, and blood-shot; the tongue swollen, and protruded between the lips; the teeth had all been extracted; the gums bruised and bloody, and portions of the jaws had been broken out with the teeth. There were also appearances of blood having issued from the gums. Thought that the teeth must have been taken out within two or three hours after death. Exa-have appeared after a natural death; had mined the throat, neck, and chest, very particularly; no marks of violence externally apparent there. Saw a cut on the forehead; it was a wound over the left eyebrow, about three quarters of an inch long, through the skin to the bone. Pressed the part, and a small quantity of blood oozed from the wound. Blood might have issued from the wound if the latter had been caused by throwing the body out of a sack after death. It was serum, tinged with blood. Saw the body again at two o'clock on the Sunday afternoon. The limbs were decidedly still on the Saturday night, but not so stiff on the Sunday; should think that it had not been laid out. It was lying on a board irregularly placed when witness first saw it in Covent-garden church-yard, near the station house. Soon after eight on that evening, witness with Mr. Partridge and other gentlemen further examined it. He cleansed with a sponge the neck and chest ; found no scratch or any other mark of violence there. He then removed the scalp, with the top of the skull. They detected a patch of blood, of the size of a crown-piece. This appearance must have beeu caused by a blow given during life. The brain was next examined, and its appearance was perfectly healthy; the body was then turned, for the purpose of examining the spinal marrow, and on removing the skin from the back part of the neck a considerable quantity of coagulated blood (witness thought at least four ounces) was found among the muscles: that blood must have been effused while the subject was alive. On removing a portion of the spine

never before seen the heart empty after death. No blow on the top of the head could have from any accident, such as from the fall of timber or a stone, produced those appearances. If a person had fallen in apoplexy by accident on the ground, he thought it was hardly possible to have caused such appearances, except the person fell on some projecting substance. Could not swear to two or three hours, in speaking of the time the teeth had been removed. Could not positively swear that they had been removed within 12 hours.

Re-examined by Mr. Adolphus-According to the best of his judgment they must have heen taken out within three or four hours. Had seen no marks on the brain that would indicate apoplexy. There was nothing to indicate a predisposition to apoplexy. Persons have died of apoplexy without marks on the brain. If the subject had died within a few minutes there would have been no external mark, and there was no mark in this case.

The foregoing testimony was corroborated by F. Tyrrel, Esq., one of the surgeons to St. Thomas's Hospital, John Earl Rogers, an inspector of police, spoke to the identity of the body; and John Wilson, a policeman, described the apprehension of the prisoners.

Joseph Sadler Thomas, the superintendent of police-On the 5th of November received information at the station-house which induced him to dispatch a party of police to the King's College. They brought back with them Bishop and Shields, and at rwards May and Williams. Shields has been di charged. When the body

was in the hamper witness asked May what he had to say, as he was charged on suspicion of having improper possession of a subject. He said that he had nothing at all to do with it. It was the property of Bishop, whom he merely accompanied to get the money. Bishop said that it was his, and that he was merely taking it, from St. Thomas's Hospital to King's College. Asked Bishop in the first instance what be was; he replied that he was "a bbody snatcher." Williams said he knew uothing of it, but merely went to see the King's College. Bishop and May appeared in liquor. May was brought in by all fours, struggling violently. The body was placed on the table. It appeared to have recently died; blood was trickling from the mouth, and the teeth were gone. Went to the house of Mr. Mills, Newington-causeway on the following Tuesday; received from him 12 teeth. (Witness here produced the teeth in a pasteboard box.) Went before that to Nova Scotia-gardeus. Weut to No. 3 there. Found in the back room of the ground floor a trunk (produced). Went again on the 20th and made further examinations. Found in the frout parlour a hairy cap covered with dirty linen, not apparently by design. Took possession of the cap, the hamper, and the sack. (All these articles were produced. The hamper appeared not more than three feet long by two broad and two deep.)

all right then." They saw witness there in the corner at the time. May sat down, and had a handkerchief rubbing in his hand. Williams came in, and Bishop said, "There he is; I knew he would come; I knew he was a game nu'." Bishop seemed to have been drinking. Bishop and Williams went out first. Just after Bishop came in, he said to May, just before May went out for the haudkerchief, "You stick to me, and I'li stick to you."

James Seagrave, the driver of a cabriolet, stated, that on the evening of the 4th he was on the stand in the Old Bailey; had put his horses' nose-bags on, and had gone to the watering-house to get his own tea. May and Bishop came in at the time. May asked if he wanted a job, and said that he wanted a cab. He led witness by the skirt of his coat to the side of a cart. May said he wanted witness to fetch a stiff un', which witness believes meant a dead body. Witness asked him what he would staud. He replied, "A guinea." Told him that he had not finished his tea, and the horse had not eaten his corn. May then said, "We will take tea together." Bishop then joined them, and they went into the house to tea. A person in the room nudged witness's elbow, and told him that he must mind what he was at, as they were snatchers. Went out afterwards and drove to the bottom of the rank to get out of their way; looked round and saw May and Bishop going up the rank of coaches. Left them apparently bargaining with a coachman.

Cross-examined by Mr. Barry-Knew that it was on Friday, because he was summoned ou that day to Essex-street. conversation was

Hen. Lock, waiter at the Fortune-of-War, knew the prisoners. Saw the prisoners there on the Friday, with a man who was a stranger to witness. They stayed till twelve o'clock, and then went away. The prisoners returned about three o'clock, without the strange man. They then stayed till about five o'clock, and Re-examined-All the went away again till about eight o'clock on when witness and May were alone. the same evening with another man, who ap- Thos. Taverner, waterman to the coachpeared to be a coachman. The latter badstand, saw on the above day May and Bishop, something to drink, and left them. They were who came to him on the stand and asked him until nine o'clock in the tap-room; before the where the cab-mau was, meaning Seagrave. coachman left, one of the prisoners said he May asked the question, and witness told him had had a ride; at nine o'clock. May went to that he was getting his tea. Fetched out the bar, and had something in a silk hand- Seagrave from the watering-house. Both the kerchief, which witness afterwards saw to be prisoners had smock-frocks on. It was just the teeth; May poured water on the outside of dark in the evening. Seagrave came out and the handkerchief, and rubbed the handker-spoke to him, but witness did not know what chief together; they looked like young teeth, it was. Seagrave, however, said, "I'll have and witness said that they were worth a few nothing at all to do with you," and went in to shillings, when May said that they were worth get his tea. two pounds to him; they all left together a short time afterwards; on the next evening he saw Bishop, Williams, and Shields, at about eight o'clock; Bishop asked Williams what they should do for a hamper, and asked Shields to go and fetch one; Shields refused, and Bishop then went and got oue himself.

Edward Chandler-Was on the 4th of November last waiter at the King-of-Denmark, in the Old Bailey, which is the watering-house. Served Bishop and May with tea at about five o'clock. Saw Seagrave there; May and Bishop had half a pint of gin. Saw May put some gin into Bishop's tea. He said, "Are you going to hocus (or burk) me?" Had known May and Bishop before.

Cross-examined by Mr. Barry-Could not say whether Seagrave had part of the gin or not.

Thomas Wigley-Was at the above house at about half-past seven o'clock on the 4th of November. Bishop and May came in and sat down opposite each other. They entered into conversation together. Bishop said to May, "What do you think of our new one? Did Henry Mann, a hackney-coachman-Was, he not go up to him well? Wasn't he a on the 4th, on the stand in Bridge-street, game un'?" May replied,. "I don't know Blackfriars. Knew May before then. Saw what you mean." Bishop rejoined, "That's him that night with a stranger to witness.

May asked witness if he would take a fare to anatomical theatre, Webb-street, Southwark, Bethnal-green. Witness replied that he knew all the prisoners, and saw Bishop and would not, because he knew what May was. May at the theatre on the Friday night, at George Hissing, a boy of about 12 years old, about half-past seven o'clock. They said that deposed that his father kept the Crabtree they had a very fresh male subject, a boy about public-house, in the Hackney-road. Saw on 14 years of age. Witness declined purchasing the Friday a chariot draw up opposite his it. They came on the next morning, about father's house, which is near Nova Scotia-11, and made the same offer, which was again gardens. Saw Williams standing on the fore declined. wheel of the chariot, talking with the coachman. The chariot remained 10 or 15 minutes. Saw Williams at that time coming from Nova Scotia-gardens, in which direction he had gone he got into the chariot. Witness saw a man, whom he did not know, helping Bishop, whom he did know, in carrying a heavy sack. It was put by Bishop, Williams, and the other man, into the chariot. Bishop and the other man then got in, and the chariot drove up Crabtree-row, which leads towards Shoreditch church.

By the Court-Could not say that the stranger was May. He knew Bishop and Williams, who were at his father's house on the day that Williams married Bishop's daughter.

Thomas Trainer corroborated the last witness. Ann Channel was passing the Crabtree on the above night. Saw three men get out of the chariot. They went down Nova Scotiagardens. One stopped and spoke to the coachman, and then ran after the others. Did not see them afterwards. The two first had smoek-frocks ou, and the other had a pipe in his mouth.

Thos. Davis, porter to the dissecting-room in Guy's Hospital, saw May and Bishop about seven o'clock on the Friday evening; May brought in a sack, and asked him if he wanted to purchase a subject. Witness replied that he did not, and they then asked him to let it remain till next morning. It was consequently locked up there during night. Saw them the next morning in the hospital, at about eleven o'clock. Left the hospital and found on his return the sack, which appeared to contain a dead body. Saw a portion of a small foot protruding through a hole of the sack; it appeared like that of a youth or a woman. It did not appear large enough for a mau's foot. Could not swear to the sack produced. It was such a ore.

Cross-examined by Mr. Curwood--Had formerly known May and Bishop, but had I never seen Williams at that time.

Thomas Mills, dentist, of 32, Bridgehouseplace, Newington-causeway, deposed, on the 5th of Nov. May called on him at about nine in the morning, and offered 12 human teeth, six from the upper and six from the lower jaw. He asked a guinea for the set. Witness said that one of them was chipped, and did not belong to the same set. He replied, "Upon my sou! to God, they all belonged to the same head not long since, and the body was never buried." Afterwards discovered that some of the flesh and pieces of the jaw adhered to the teeth, and it appeared that much force had been used to wrench them out. Witness said that they were a young set. He replied, "The fact is, that they belonged to a boy 14 or 15 years of age."

By Mr. Curwood-He was sure that May did not say that they looked as fresh as if they had never been buried.

Augustus Brun examined, by medium of an interpreter-I knew a boy named Carlo Ferrari, and brought him from Italy two years ago; he was about fourteen years old, and lived with me about six weeks after he came here. The 28th of July, 1830, was the last time I saw the boy alive. He then lived at Mr. Elliott's, No. 2, Charles-street, Drury-lane. On the 19th of November I saw the body of the boy in St. Paul's burial-ground, Covent-garden, and I believe it to be the body of that boy; the size and the hair were similar, but the face was disfigured.

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Cross-examined-If I had known nothing about this occurrence, and had seen the body, I should be of opinion he was my own." By Mr. Justice Littledale-He was in his 15th year. I have not seen him for fifteen months. He might have grown a little in that time, but not much.

By Mr. Curwood-At first sight, if anybody had asked me who the body was, the face was so disfigured I could not tell.

Joseph Paragalli sworn-I get a living by playing an organ and pipes in the street. I knew Carlo Ferrari, and used to see him every

James Weeks, assistant to the last witness,day in Charles-street, Drury-lane. His sister deposed to having given up the sack to them; he also saw a hole in the sack, and saw a foot or a knee projecting through it; the sack was very like the one produced; when they took it away Williams and Shields were with May and Bishop; delivered the sack to them in the same state as when he received it; May and Bishop had each requested him not to allow either of them to have it without the other; they took it away in a hamper similar to that . produced.

James Appleton, curator of Mr. Grainger's

lived in Scotland, and died there. He came to London on the 22d of May, 1830, and I have known him all that time; I last saw him alive in the Quadrant, Regent-street, at two o'clock on a Saturday, four weeks before I saw his body at the station-house. When I saw him in the Quadrant he had a little cage round his neck, with two white mice in it. He was in the habit of wearing a cap, but I cannot say whether it was of cloth, leather, or skin. The leather shade of the cap produced was of foreign manufacture.

Mary Paragalli, wife of the preceding witness, stated, that on Tuesday, November 1, she saw the deceased in Oxford-street, near Hanover-square. He had a cage like a squirrelcage, and two white mice in it. She did not speak to him. He wore a cap, but she could not tell what sort of one it was. She had seen the body of that boy at the station-house in Covent-garden.

Andrew Colla, of No. 4, Great Saffron-hill, birdcage-maker-I knew the deceased boy, by seeing him in the streets, and saw him lately in Oxford-street. I have seen the body at the station house, and believe it to be the body of the boy I have seen in the streets. When I saw him in Oxford-street, he had white mice in a cage, and a tortoise. The cap produced was similar to that which he wore. He also wore a blue coat and grey trousers with a large patch on the left knee of the latter.

(The trousers, which had been dug up in Bishop's garden, were here produced.)

The witness examined them, and stated he believed them to be the same as those the deceased had worn, and he pointed out the patch in the knee of them.

John King, a boy, sworn-I shall be ten years old next Christmas. I go to chapel, and know the consequences of telling a lie. I live at No. 3, Crabtree-road, facing the Bird-cage public-house, and near Nova Scotia-gardens. 1 remember one day when my mother washed, seeing a boy near Nova-Scotia gardens. I helieve it was the Thursday before Guy Fawkes day. I was looking out of the window, and the boy had something, but my mother would not let me go to see what it was. I believe it was a little cage that he had, and it was slung from bis neck by a string. He was standing still. He had a brown cap, with the leaf or shade lined with green, exactly like this cap (the one produced). I was looking at him for a few minutes.

he was taken into custody. I have often seen Bishop there. I let the house No. 2 last July to the prisoner Williams, who then went by the name of Head. Williams occupied it six or seven weeks, and it was afterwards occupied by a person named Woodcock. It was a few weeks empty. There are gardens behind the houses, and low fences between, but there is a communication from No. 1 and No. 2 to No. 3, because there was a well for the use of the whole in Bishop's house. There is a privy at the bottom of Bishop's garden. I have seen. Williams several times at No. 3, after he left No. 2. I have also seen Williams's wife there.

William Woodcock, a hoy, stated that he lived with his father, at No. 2, Nova Scotiagardens, next door to Bishop's house; he knew Williams, and had seen him there ten times, and had also seeu Williams's wife washing in Bishop's house-saw Williams there two or three days before Guy Fawkes-day, walking in the garden smoking a pipe.

Abraham Keymer, landlord of the Feathers, Castle-street, Bethnal-green, sworn-On the night of Thursday, the 3d of November, Bishop, and he believed Williams also, came to my house. It was near 12 o'clock. My house is about 200 yards from Nova Scotia gardens. They had a quartern of rum and half a gallon of beer, and I lent them a can to carry it. The can produced was that which he lent them.

Wm. Woodcock sworn-I went to reside at No. 2, Nova Scotia-gardens on the 17th October, next door to Bishop. Williams, I have reason to believe, also lived with Bishop. I lived in No. 2, until after the prisoners were apprehended. I know Williams, but did not know Bishop until I saw him at Bow-street. The first Sunday' I lived there I was digging in my garden, when Williams told him to dig in a certain spot, where he would find some Cross-examined-It was the first floor win-lilies. Ou Thursday, the 3d of November, I dow from which I saw him, yet I could see the lining of his cap shade.

went to bed about half-past niue o'clock. In the course of the nigh, probably about four Martha King, the sister to the last witness, hours and a half after I had gone to bed, I aged eleven years, sworn-On the Wednesday was awakened by hearing footsteps, which I or Thursday before Guy Fawkes-day she saw thought were at the back of my premises, but the Italian boy, as described by her brother. I distinctly heard three men's footsteps in the He was not one minute's walk from Bishop's parlour of No.3 (Bishop's house). Iremained house, and she had never seen him since. in bed and heard a scuffle, which lasted for John Randall, a labourer, sworn-I live near Nova Scotia-gardens. On Thursday morning, November 3, I saw the Italian boy, about nine or ten o'clock, near Nova Scotia-gardens. He was standing under the window of the Bird-cage public-house, and had a box or cage, with two white mice. He had on a blue coarse jacket, a brown fur cap, but I did not notice his trousers. The cap and jacket were similar to those produced.

Sarah Trueby, wife of John Trueby, sworn. -My husband is landlord of Nos. 1, 2, and 3, Nova Scotia-gardeus, and I have been in the habit of letting the houses, and receiving the rents. I let No. 3 to Bishop's wife in June, 1830. Bishop and his wife resided there until

one or two minutes, at the furthest, and all was silent. The scuffling was in the same room in which I heard the footsteps. Afterwards I heard Bishop's side door open, and also heard the footsteps of two men. There is a side door to Bishop's house. The persons after leaving Bishop's house, I heard come round to the front, and pass by my house. After they were gone, I heard the footstep of one person in the house. When those two persons returned to the house, I distinctly heard the voices of three persons, one of which I knew to be that of Williams. After that all became still again, and I went to rest.

Cross-examined-I believe the wall between the two houses is but four inches thick. The

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