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was to receive 4,600,0001. over and above persons resident in France ; and to ano. the sums which had been already advanced ther resolution, not to pay any persons to him. What was the consequence of who had not emigrated from France. this ? Did the Emperor undertake to fur- Sums of money were due to a religious nish more than the 200,000 men? No such order in France, and the Emperor said thing; and it now appeared that the Em- he would not pay them unless they proved peror had never agreed to what had been they had emigrated from France; and stated to the House by the minister. Per- by the second resolution, he said he would haps it was not criminal on the part of not pay them, because they happened to our government to advance the money be in the Austrian Netherlands, at the which the Emperor had actually received time the French over-ran that quarter. but he was sure that the House ought to In answer to the minister's assertion, that have better information than the minister we had made good use of our credit, by had given them, before they agreed to a the terms of the loan, there were two arproposition which was both dangerous guments against such a mode of proceedand alarming. There was a rumour that ing ; first, it was not honourable for the this faithful ally of ours had acted in a House to sell the interest of the public manner not very consistent with the cha. credit ; and, secondly, if it was to be sold racter which had been given him: if that it should be sold for what it was really rumour was true, we were proceeding, worth. He saw in this convention no without the least security that we should stipulation that the Emperor should not not be deceived. It had been said, that make a separate peace.

If peace should when the British and allied armies were in be soon concluded between the French a situation of the greatest peril, and when and the Emperor we should have given a delay of only twenty-four hours of the 4,600,0001. absolutely for nothing. There Austrians would have been essential, that had been something said upon the disdelay had been refused by his imperialma. tinction between the character of the jesty. We had continued to pay the Em- Emperor as such, and that of king of Hunperor 100,0001. a month after he had de- gary and Bohemia; that, as Emperor, he serted us. When an inquiry was proposed might agree to a peace with France, but to be made into this business, we were told as king and archduke, he might pursue there were some difficulties in the way of the war with vigour. This was perfectly an explanation. He would ask, was that ridiculous, for whenever peace was agreed an answer to a House of Commons called upon, one of the leading articles of the upon to vote away by millions the public treaty must be that he should not suffer money? It was objected to by many, and troops destined against France to pass by himself particularly, on the discussion through any of his dominions, and thereof the Prussian treaty, that we should pay fore he would forbid such troops from going such large sums withoutknowing correctly through Bohemia against France. But he how former engagements had been fulfilled. was afraid that all the hopes of the majority It had been stated, that we were pot anwho supported this war were now in the inswerable for the whole amount of the loan, sincerity of the Emperor, as to this resif the Emperor should fail; that we were cript. Exclusive of the infamy of such a answerable only for the dividends from principle, he advised the House to be time to time as the failure should occur. cautious in trusting to such a security, for He was really too stupid to see the dis- he knew of no real security in the conduct tinction between being answerable for the of any man, if that conduct was not foundwhole sum, and paying for ever the divi-ed on the principes of fair dealing. What dends that shall become due upon it. He security had we that what the Emperor wished to know upon what our security was doing in London was sincere, and rested with regard to this loan. He that what he was doing in Vienna was not should be answered, no doubt, on the all duplicity ? He should like to know punctuality of the payments of the Em- with what face of sincerity the Empeperor. Now, there were persons, and he ror could come to the diet with his resconfessed he was one of the number, who cript in favour of peace, and at the same had doubts concerning this punctuality. moment open a loan with this country for Here Mr. Fox read an extract of a letter carrying on the war. The truth was, the from a person at Vienna, stating, that the diet were unacquainted with his determicourt of Vienna had come to a resolution nation to accept our loan when he publishnot to pay dividends of old loans to any ed this rescript, and by the step which we were about to take, we were to become a letter from a friend, in which he had inparties to the delusion. Whatever were the formed him, “ that the religious houses real intentions of the Emperor, this was a were situated, not in France, but in the duplicity of a nature so detestable, that Austrian Netherlands. The bonds for the we ought to be ashamed of being parties money lent belonged to English convents to it.

of nuns in the Emperor's own dominions ; The committee divided : Yeas, 77. and it was to his own subjects that the Noes, 43. The resolution was accord- Emperor had been guilty of a breach of ingly agreed to.

faith.” Such was the purport of the let

ter. The fact, therefore, was, that this June 3. The Resolution being reported was an aggravated circumstance in the conto the House,

duct of the perfidious Emperor, and an Mr. W. Smith said, that a great altera. additional proof of the solvency, as it tion in the affairs of Europe had taken was called, of this bankrupt bank of Vio place since the House first voted this loan. enna. With respect to the political prinIt had become a question, whether or not ciple of the measure, the country was to we were likely to obtain an equivalent for give money for assistance which was not this very large sum of money? This ques- stipulated, and which it could not enforce. tion seemed to him to depend very much His imperial majesty did not say that he upon two considerations: first, the pro- would not make peace, in his convention bability of any co-operation on the part of with this country; whereas, in his rescript the Emperor in this war : secondly, the to the diet of Ratisbon, he had said, that efficiency of that co-operation. Upon the he would make peace. The House, thereprobability of that co-operation he owned, fore, were called upon to grant the loan, that, considering the state of the Germa- without any decided assurance, that the nic empire, he thought that very doubtful, Emperor would continue the war; and with from the disposition which that monarch a direct assertion of his readiness to make had manifested in his rescrip: to the Ger- peace. It ought to be shown that the remanic states. Supposing the Emperor venues of his imperial majesty were suffishould be induced to make peace, what se- cient to repay the money, independently curity had we for the payment of any of the ordinary expenditure of the impepart of this loan? Did any gentleman rial dominions. The fact was, that a loan imagine that it would then be even in the was to be granted, without any assurance power of the Emperor to pay? Thus we being made by the Emperor, that he would were going to risk 4,600,0001. upon a afford effectual aid. He had, it was true, chance for which no private gentleman agreed to raise 200,000 men. Where would give 4001. of his own property. He were those men? And how did the counentreated the House to consider what they try know that they would, if such a numwere doing.

ber could be raised, co-operate with this Mr. For wished the House to consider country? It appeared, then, that if the Emthe step they were taking, and how totally peror did not choose to keep his engagedestitute they were of any defence of ment, Great Britain could not force him ; their conduct to their constituents. He and that if he did keep his engagement, alluded to a fact which he had stated when he might still make peace



inthis subject was last discussed. The fact consistency. By the way, was there any he had stated was not strictly correct; but man sure that his co-operation would not the difference made considerably in favour cease altogether, as soon as the royal asof the conclusion he had drawn, as to the sent should be given to the bill for the fidelity of the Emperor, in the fulfilment loan? If the House took upon itself to of his pecuniary engagements. He had guarantee this loan, and should aftersaid, that certain religious houses in wards be deceived, it could not deny but France had lent the Emperor large sums it had been properly warned. of money, to be repaid at the bank of Mr. Pitt said, as to what had been of Vienna, and that the Emperor had first fered in depreciation of Austrian fidelity issued an order that the interest should in pecuniary engagements, it consisted of not be paid to any but to those who ex parte statements, extracted from the could prove their emigration, and after- letters of interested individuals. As to wards had issued another order that no in- the Emperor's decree respecting the nonterest should be paid at all. In conse payment of those who did not prove their quence of this statement, he had received emigration, it alluded entirely to his own

subjects. When the rulers of France got , advanced, and the preparations on the
possession of Flanders, and confiscated part of the allies not so formidable as last
the property of the inhabitants, the court year. If our past efforts, when every nerve
of Vienna thought proper to refuse cer- was, strained, had been marked only by
tain religious societies of France, who failure and defeat, what could be expected
were holders of imperial securities, pay from diminished exertions but more fatal
ment during the war. He maintained, disgraces? Suppose the Emperor's generals
that for good faith, no court in Europe should tell him that they cannot make of.
stood higher than that of Vienna, inso- fensive war, must it not strike a gloom into
much, that he challenged any man to show every gentleman, that we should guarantee
a single instance, before the present, in 4,600,000l. to carry on a protracted and
which it was called in question. It had defensive war? He thought it vain to
been said the Emperor intended to make attempt the conquest of twenty-four mil-
peace with the French. That suggestion, lions of people, and that with a view to
supposing it to be true, was of little weight destroy their republic, it would be better
against the expediency of the loan: for he to make peace.
put it to the candour of the House, whe- Mr. M. Robinson insisted that there was
ther there was the smallest inconsistency apparent perfidy in the conduct of the Em-
in the Emperor's declaring, as head of the peror, and that the House had a right to
Germanic body, his willingness to nego- be distrustful of a prince who had at the
ciate for a peace, and at the same time same time signed a treaty for the continu-
prosecuting the war as grand duke of Aus- ance of the war, and sent to the diet of
tria, and king of Bohemia and Hungary. Ratisbon a rescript, expressive of his
It might as well be argued, that the king wish to make peace.
of Great Britain, as elector of Hanover, Mr. Lechmere said, that the expenses
should refuse his contingent, or necessa- of this disastrous war had fallen almost
rily embroil Great Britain in war; nay, entirely upon this country, and had been
every independent prince of the empire drawn from the hard-earned pittance of
had the same power. But he would the poor. The vast expense he could not
assert that Austria had often been at consent to swell. It was therefore his
war with France when the empire was at opinion, that no loan should be granted to

the Emperor. Prussia had been subsidized The question being put,“ That the said at a period when his Prussian majesty had resolution be now read a second time;" explicitly asserted, that he could not find the House divided :

troops enow to act against the French. Tellers.

A subsidy had been granted to the king of

Sardinia, for nothing more than defending
Mr. Edw. Jas. Eliot

60 his own dominions. The loan to the Em-
Mr. Sargent

peror was evidently for the purpose of Noes S


preventing him from making peace. General Tarleton

loan for any such purpose, he should deSo it was resolved in the affirmative. cidedly object. The said Resolution was then agreed to, Mr. Fox rose for the purpose of moving and a bill was ordered to be brought in an amendment. The House, he said, thereupon.

had been told that the French were in

great distress, and so he believed they June 10. On the order of the day for were. The House had also been told the second reading of the Emperor's Loan that much might be done by standing bill,

aloof. His own idea of standing aloof, General Tarleton opposed the guarantee, was to stand aloof at a peace, or at an as a profuse expenditure of the public expense not much above the ordinary money; the stipulations by the Emperor peace establishment, and not at an annot being likely to be fulfilled. This would nual expense of thirty millions. France, be evident, if a view were taken of the re- it had been said, was falling to pieces, lation in which the Emperor stood as king and yet she made treaties of peace. Why of Bohemia, and head of the empire; and was, therefore, a treaty with this country the state of the continent from the defec- to prevent her from continuing to fall to tion of Prussia. What topes were there pieces? The present was altogether a new of success, even if the Emperor's co-ope- system of which the ministers were the auration were certain? The season was far thors, they had sufficient experience of the

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conduct of Prussia, and they werenow going there were some persons, who called themto try the Emperor. He understood that selves politicians, who were so shortthere were to be some new allies; not sighted as to think this advantageous, at new allies in point of principle, but in all events, to this country. For his own point of performance, and that Russia part, he could not help believing, that was to co-operate with this country. He such a war as this alliance might produce, wished to know why the empress was must involve one half of Europe on one more to be trusted now than the king of side or other of it ; and he could not Prussia, and how historians were to dis- avoid looking with great anxiety at the tinguish between Prussia and the other condition of so large a part of mankind, powers who had participated in the dis- if the calamities of war were to be thus memberment of Poland ? But did any extended, and the prospect of peace to man expect cordial co-operation from the be placed at so great a distance. We Austrians ? He had frequently challenged were told every day of the great distresses the minister to produce one general officer of France ; and he believed some of them : who would say, that any co-operation but he never could look with pleasure on could be expected from them. Of the the prosecution of a war, when the ques. Austrians, it would not be too much to tion between the parties was, who could say, that they were as much to be hold out, and bear great distress the trusted as the Prussians, and the Prus- longest ? He had heard, that with respect sians as the Austrians. He concluded by to our own distress, the accounts of it moving, as an amendment to the motion, were exaggerated. He wished to hear a to leare out the word “ now," and at the statement of facts that could lead him to end of the question to add the words believe that such accounts were over-coupon this day two months.”

loured. But he knew that the distress of The question being put, that the word this country was great ; and he had no “ now" stand part of the question, the grounds for believing that the distress of House divided :

France was such as was not likely to be Tellers.

felt also in this country, and that for a

considerable time, even although the evil YEAS Mr. Rolle

55 Mr. J. Gordon

should not in reality be equal to the ac

counts of it, for we all knew what mighty Noes ŞGen. Tarleton

29 mischief monopoly was capable of creat2 Mr. W. Smith

ing. He could not let slip the opportu

nity of delivering his sentiments. He June 15. On the order of the day wished at all times that we should avoid, being read for the third reading of the bill, as much as possible, the calamities of

Mr. Fox said, that this measure had war, always dreadful, but infinitely more always appeared to him a profligate waste so, when every part of Europe was likely of the money of the people. What had to feel the want of provision. From these happened lately confirmed him in that alarming apprehensions, he found it his opinion : he meant the surrender of Lux duty to oppose this bill in its last stage. embourg. It became the House to con- The bill was then read a third time, and sider, whether, after the Emperor had passed. lost one of the most important fortresses in Europe, every nerve which he could Debate on the Earl of Lauderdale's Moemploy, could in any material degree be tion respecting Peace with France.] June serviceable to us. This was not all : 5. The Earl of Lauderdale rose to call the there were reports of a cessation of hos- attention of their lordships to the subject tilities, and of a new alliance between / of which he had given notice. He did this country, Austria, and Russia. He not mean to refer to any of those former hoped, if it existed, it would be laid be discussions on the subject of the war, fore the House immediately.

respecting which there had been consiin his mind, an alarming thing. There derable difference of opinion ; nor did he were persons who believed that the con- wish, by any seeming asperity, to prosequence of sucli an alliance would be a voke warmth, or excite ill humour ; his war between the two imperial powers and anxious desire was, that the question Prussia. Whether such an alliance was should be debated with a calmness equal right or wrong, he would not presume to its importance. Whatever might have to determine. He was sorry to believe that been the determination of that llouse,

This was,

with regard to motions that had been , ent parts, reminded him of a passage in made on the war, there were some recent the is Critic," where the Heroine, Tilburevents, especially the peace concluded ina, while interceding with the governor with France by the king of Prussia, which her father, in behalf of her lover, Whiskejustified him in calling now for a different randos, says, “ Can you resist the determination. If they examined the pre- daughter and the suppliant?”. The gosent situation of this country, and the vernor answers, “ The father's softened, condition of our allies, their lordships but the governor's resolved.” In much must find it to be their duty to come to the same light he apprehended the Emsome specific proposition at this time, peror to be softened, and the king of Bo. that would alter the nature of what they hemia to be resolved. His lordship then had already declared to be their opinion. took a view of our situation in the West Here his lordship took a view of our situa- Indies, and expressed great apprehensions tion both externally and internally, to for our safety in that quarter. It might enforce the necessity

of the House be said that there existed no government coming to a determination, that might in France with which we could treat ; to tend to remove some of the difficulties which he would answer, that it would not under which we laboured in this war. Even be found in any good book on the law of the expense of this war would, if long con nations, that a government acquiesced in tinued, be our ruin; for there was not might not be treated with. What objecone of the allies, who must not be even- tion was there to acknowledge the governtually in the pay of Great Britain, except ment of France ? Every power in Europe, Spain. We were now left with scarcely except Russia, whose success as a friend any ally that could be relied upon, except to liberty, he should deplore, had already the Emperor; and, strange to tell, on the done so. Nay, even we, had negociated same day that his Convention was signed with them, for we had proposed an exat Vienna with the king of Great Britain change of prisoners. But it was said, that for carrying on the war with activity and (if any negociation was to take place, it energy, his rescript to the States of the should be left to ministers: but we had empire was delivered to the Diet of Ra.

seen no wish of this kind expressed by tisbon, by which he agrees to negociate ministers, and therefore he thought that for a peace between the empire and the parliament ought to interfere. He was French as soon as possible.

This was a confident the French government were line of conduct which afforded considera- desirous for peace, and he thought the ble cause of suspicion as to the sincerity parliament of Great Britain should maniof the Emperor's intentions; and if his fest a similar disposition. He saw nothing intentions were not sincere, on whom less than the total ruin of this country, in could this country depend for any assist- carrying on the war. He had heard, that ance in the next campaign? It was im- this was a war to support our constitution possible to look to Spain as an active ally he did not believe it; for that constitution The king of Sardinia was so situated, must be a bad one indeed, which required that there was cause to apprehend, that perpetual war to preserve it. He concludif reasonable terms were offered him by the ed with moving, French, he would be ready to conclude a “ That an humble Address be presented peace. If we looked to the powers on to his majesty, that his inajesty's dutiful the continent, we should find them all and loyal subjects, the lords spiritual and subsidized by this country, and yet all temporal in parliament assembled, have, eager to make peace. Even the Empe- during the war in which so great a part of ror, at the head of the empire, had con- Europe has been involved, repeatedly fessed himself ready to do so ; but, then, given every assurance, that nothing should great stress was laid on his vigorous exer- be wanting on their part that could contions, as king of Hungary and Bohemia. tribute to that firm and effectual support He could by no means join in this opinion, which his majesty had so much reason to nor did he see the kingof Hungary and Bo- expect from a brave and loyal people. hemia could give us that assistance which That at the commencement of the would be necessary to render another cam- present war this House saw, with satisfacpaign of the least use to this country. This tion, the United Provinces, protected double capacity of king of Hungary and Bo- from invasion, the Austrian Netherlands hemia, and emperor of Germany, in which recovered and maintained, and places the same person acted such very differ- of considerable importance acquired on

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