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Ans. Paper A is a copy of the account of Mr. Rives as taken from the books of our company. no other contract with Rives and have not paid him for any other services.

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Ques. 4. Since the cars have ceased to run on the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad, have not agents been permitted to travel on your road free of charge, who were engaged in soliciting travellers to go by the bay linc ?

Ans. Yes. We carry the agents of all connecting lines free on our cars. This I believe is a general custom on all lines bringing travel to one another. But none of these agents ever solicit travellers in our cars. All this is done before they reach our road.

Ques. 5. Have not the agents who have been so acting been permitted to buy tickets of the Petersburg railroad, and to sell them in connexion with their own tickets, so as virtually to make through tickets" between Weldon and Baltimore, by way of the bay line ?

Ans. Yes. But this is not virtually a “through ticket,” according to the understanding of the Richmond and Fredericksburg railroad company, for their agents purchase tickets over our road precisely as the agents of the bay line do, but they will not agree that it is a through ticket.

Ques. 6. Have not deductions on your regular fare on some occasions been allowed to agents engaged to procure travellers to go on the bay line, in the purchase of your tickets?

Ques. 7. Have you in any case sold your tickets to any persons at rates lower than the regular rates of charge from Weldon to Petersburg ? If so, state what deductions were made ?

Answer to questions 6 and 7. Last summer when a line of steampackets was projected to run between New York and Charleston, several meetings of representatives from all the railroad and steamboat companies, on the

land route between those cities, were held in Baltimore, for the purpose of arranging a through ticket to meet the competition of these steamers; but none could be arranged owing to the refusal of the Richmond and Petersburg, and Richmond and Fredericksburg railroad companies, to enter into a ticket unless the bay line was excluded. After this, one of the steamships (the Palmetto) was started, and the Wilmington and Charleston company and the James river and bay companies proposed to us to try a ticket on the days the Palmetto sailed, in which each company should reduce in the same proportion, about 25 per cent. This was tried four or five times, when the Palmetto ceased running. These deductions were not made with a particular view of benefitting the bay line, for the agent of the Wilmington company in Charleston, who issued the tickets, had orders to issue them for the railroads whenever they signified their willingness to reduce in the same proportion.

Ques. 8. Have you not endeavoured since the cars ceased to run on the Portsmouth and Roanoke road, to keep up the competition between the James river and bay line and the railroad line between Petersburg and Washington; and have you in any way used your influence to induce the owners of the James river and bay boats to continue such competition? Or have you in any way aided the owners of said boats to keep up their line of boats ?

Ans. No.

Questions by the Counsel of the Memorialists, R. A. Mayo and others.

Ques. 9. Does the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company enjoy the same privilege of sending agents on the Petersburg railroad that the bay line enjoys? Do the agents of that company have and exercise the same privilege of purchasing that the bay line has ? Has the Petersburg railroad company offered to terminate the arrangement of sending agents and purchasing tickets as to both the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company and bay company ? if so, did the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company decline this offer?

Ans. Yes, in regard to the two first questions. In regard to the last question some time last spring or summer, Dr. Joseph M. Sheppard, a large stockholder in the Richmond and Fredericksburg company, and who had once been president of that company, visited Petersburg and informed me he had come, as a friend of both sides, to see if something could not be done to settle the difficulties between the companies. There were not members enough of our board in town to make a meeting, but two directors and myself met Dr. Sheppard, and after a full conversation on the subject, he submitted a proposition to the effect of putting an end to the custom of suffering the agents of both lines to ride free on our road and purchase our tickets, and that we should sell tickets for both lines whenever passengers asked for them. This we agreed to and gave it as our opinion that the board would do the same. Dr. Sheppard then stated he would submit the proposition to the Richmond and Fredericksburg company. Some time afterwards I received a letter from him informing me that he had done so, but they would not agree to it.

Did the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company or the Richmond and Petersburg railroad company furnish any part of the means advanced to Francis E. Rives for the purchase of a part of the Portsmouth and Roanoke road in North Carolina, or had either of these companies, or any of their stockholders or officers, directly or indirectly, any connexion with or interest in the movement to break down the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad ? if so, be pleased to state all that you know on the subject of this enquiry-and exhibit any letter or correspondence which may shew the connexion, if any such there be, of the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company or the Richmond and Petersburg railroad company, with this movement.

Ans. I am not aware that any means were ever advanced F. E. Rives for the purchase of a part of the Portsmouth railroad by the Richmond and Fredericksburg company, or Richmond and Petersburg company, or by any other company; nor have I any knowledge that either of these companies, or any of their stockholders or officers, directly or indirectly, had any connexion with or interest in any movement to break down the Portsmouth road.

Perhaps it may be proper to state, in connexion with this answer, that several months after Mr. Rives had become the purchaser of the Portsmouth road, he informed our board that he believed he could make an advantageous arrangement with the Richmond and Fredericksburg, and Richmond and Petersburg companies, to turn the travel which was then going over his road to our road, if we would agree to unite with those companies in the expense of putting on a stage line between Washington and Baltimore to reduce the high fare on the railroad. This our board refused to do until Mr. Rives agreed to pay our portion of the expense. Upon this assurance the board passed the following resolution, December 25th, 1843 :

Resolved, That in consideration of the railroad companies immediately north of this, surrendering a portion of their receipts to secure the success of the proposition made to this company by F. E. Rives, this company will agree, should it be necessary to resort to a line of stages between Baltimore and the City of Washington, to put down the exorbitant fare on the Washington and Baltimore railroad, to bear a fair pro rata share of any loss, ald there be any of such line of stages, the amount which this company shall pay in his event not to exceed

the pro rata established by the division of the fare of the through ticket, or to be left to the arbitrainent of C. F. Osborne.

(Signed)

H. D. BIRD, Prest.

This resolution was replied to by a joint resolution of the boards of the two companies above named, to the effect that they would pay to our company 25 cents per passenger for the benefit of Rives, provided a through ticket should be agreed upon which would be satisfactory to them.

Ques. 11. (By a Member of the Committee.) What were the results of establishing the stage line between Washington and Baltimore-was there a profit or loss, and how much, as well as you can recollect?

Ans. I do not know what were the particular results of establishing the stage line between Washington and Baltimore. All that I know about it is that after the stages ran some time, the railroad company reduced their fare from $2 50 per passenger to $ 1 60. I do not know whether there was a profit or loss in running the stage line. The Richmond and Fredericksburg railroad company brought a claim against our company to pay a portion of $6000, which they stated was the loss or amount to be paid the stage owners for running the stages. pointed an agent to settle it, but it has not yet been done.

Ques. 12. Was not Mr. Rives himself the agent appointed by you to settle the claim for loss by the stage line ?

Ans. Yes. He being the party who was to pay the Petersburg railroad company's portion of the loss.

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Questions propounded to Col. Joseph Bragg, a Director of the Petersburg Railroad Company.

Ques. 1. Was there any contract, agreement or understanding, express or implied, direct or indirect, between Francis E. Rives and the directors of the Petersburg railroad company previous to the sale of the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad in North Carolina, to the effect that if the said Rives should become the purchaser of said road, the Petersburg company would either purchase the said railroad or pay the said Rives any money or make with him any contract for his indemnity if the said railroad should cease to be used as a railroad ? Was there held out to the said Rives any inducement or promise of advantage to be derived to him from the said Petersburg company if he should prevent the use of the said road by the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad company or by any other railroad company?

Ques. 2. Answer the same question as to the time prior to the decision of the case of the State against F. E. Rives in the supreme court of North Carolina.

Answer to questions 1 and 2. Within my knowledge and belief, there was no contract or agreement, express or implied, between the board of directors of the Petersburg railroad company and Francis E. Rives previous to the sale of the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad in North Carolina, nor subsequently thereto, until 14th June 1845. The board of directors did not hold out to said Rives any inducement or promise of advantage to be derived to him from the Petersburg railroad company, should he prevent the use of any part of the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad. I expressed to him my opinion that I thought it would be a good speculation, if he could get quiet and undisturbed possession of that part of the road, and gave it as my opinion that the Petersburg railroad company would purchase the iron from him.

Ques. 3. What amount of money, if any, has been paid F. E. Rives under the contract of 14th June 1845, and at what rates ? Has any money been paid F. E. Rives on any other contract or for any other services ? If so state the amount and when paid ? and if the contract be in writing produce it?

Ans. None except the amount paid on the contract of June 14, 1845, and specified in the regular reports made by the president and directors. The president, I presume, will in his answer specify the particulars.

Questions by a Member of the Committee.

Ques. 4. Since the cars have ceased to run on the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad, have the agents been permitted to travel on your road free of charge, who were engaged in soliciting travellers to go by the bay line?

Ans. Agents of the bay line have been permitted to travel on the Petersburg railroad free of charge, but I have no knowledge of their soliciting travel for the bay line while they were on board of the cars.

Ques. 5. Have not the agents who have been so acting been permitted to buy tickets of the Petersburg railroad company and to sell them in connexion with their own tickets, so as virtually to make "through tickets" between Weldon and Baltimore by way of the bay line ?

Ans. I believe they have.

Ques, 6. Have not deductions on your regular fare on some occasions been allowed to agents engaged to procure travellers to go on the bay line in the purchase of your tickets?

Ques. 7. Have you in any case sold your tickets to any persons at rates lower than the regular rates of charge from Weldon to Petersburg ? If so state what deductions were made ?

Answer to questions 6 and 7. I had no knowledge of any such deductions until long subsequent to their being made, but have been informed by the president, that, on a special occasion, which he will I presume specify in his answer to the questions, there was a deduction made.

Ques. 8. Have you not endeavoured since the cars ceased to run on the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad to keep up the competition between the James river and bay line and the railroad line between Petersburg and Washington ? and have you not in any way used your influence to induce the owners of the James river and bay boats to continue such competition, or have you in any way aided the owners of said boats to keep up their line of boats ?

Ans. I have not endeavoured to keep up the competition between the James river and bay line and the railroad line between Petersburg and Washington, nor have I in any way used my influence to induce the owners of the James river and bay line boats to contiuue such competition, nor have I in any way aided the owners of said boats to keep up their line of boats.

Questions by the Counsel for the Memorialists.

Ques. 9. Does the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company enjoy the same privileges of sending agents over the Petersburg railroad that the bay line enjoys? Do the agents of that company have and exercise the same privilege of purchasing that the bay company has ?

Has the Petersburg railroad company offered to terminate the arrangement of sending agents and purchasing tickets as to both the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company and bay company ? If so did the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potamac railroad company decline this offer ?

Ans. The agents of the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company have the same privilege of passing free of charge over our road, and the agent of that company exercises the same privilege of purchasing tickets and of selling them in connexion with their own, making through tickets by way of Richmond, Fredericksburg and Washington to Baltimore, just as the agents of the bay line had.

The Petersburg railroad company has never made any formal proposition to terminate the arrangement of sending agents and purchasing tickets as to both the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company and the bay company; but at an interview between Dr. Sheppard, Mr. May, Mr. Bird and myself, a proposition was made by Dr. Sheppard to do away with the agencies, &c., which we agreed to, and told him we thought our board would agree to, if sanctioned by the other companies. I have understood that the Fredericksburg and Potomac company did not agree to the proposition proposed by Dr. Sheppard.

Ques. 10. Did the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company or the Richmond and Petersburg railroad company furnish any part of the means advanced to F. E. Rives for the purchase of a part of the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad in North Carolina, or had either of these companies or any of their stockholders or officers any connexion with or interest in the movement to break down the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad? If so be pleased to state all that you know on the subject of this enquiry, and exhibit any letter or correspondence which may shew the connexion, if any there be, of the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company or the Richmond and Petersburg railroad company with this movement.

Ans. I have no reason to believe that the Richmond and Fredericksburg company or the Richmond and Petersburg company furnished any part of the means advanced by F. E. Rives for the purchase of a part of the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad in North Carolina, nor do I know that either of those companies, or any of their stockholders or officers, directly or indirectly, had any connexion with the movement to put down the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad.

JOS. BRAGG,

Questions propounded to David May, Esq. Director of the Petersburg Railroad Company. Ques. 1. Was there any contract, agreement or understanding, express or implied, direct or indirect, between Francis E. Rives and the directors of the Petersburg railroad company previous to the sale of the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad, in North Carolina, to the effect, that if the said Rives should become the purchaser of said road the Petersburg company would either purchase the said road, or pay the said Rives any money, or make with him any contract for his indemnity, if the said railroad should cease to be used as a railroad ? Was there held out to the said Rives any inducement or promise of advantage to be derived to him from the said Petersburg company, if he should prevent the use of the said road by the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad company, or by any other railroad company ?

Ques. 2. Answer the same question as to the time prior to the decision of the case of the “State against F. E. Rives," in the supreme court of North Carolina ?

Answer to 1st and 2nd questions. Within my knowledge or belief there was no contract, agreement or understanding, express or implied, direct or indirect, between F. E. Rives and the directors of the Petersburg railroad company to the effect indicated in the first question, either previously to the purchase of a part of the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad by said Rives, or subsequently thereto, until June 1845, when the written contract dated June 14th, 1845, was entered into; which was sometime after the decision in favour of F. E. Rives by the supreme court of North Carolina: nor did the board of directors hold out to said Rives any inducement or promise of advantage to be derived to him from the Petersburg railroad company, should he stop the use of any part of said road. Individual stockholders of the Petersburg railroad company, and some, probably all the directors of said company expressed the opinion that Mr. Rives's purchase of the claim of Rochelle and of a part of the road would prove a profitable speculation, if he could get quiet and undisturbed possession of part of that road. I was of that opinion, and expressed to Mr. Rives the belief that he could make money from it; either from the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad company, by permitting them to use it; or from the Petersburg railroad company, for withholding the use of it from the Portsmouth company. I think that was the opinion of almost every one that I heard speak of it: not only of those who wished Mr. Rives success, but of those who opposed him and desired his failure. I expressed my opinion as an individual.

Ques. 3. What amount of money (if any) has been paid to F. E. Rives under the contract of 14th June 1845, and at what dates? Has any money been paid F. E. Rives on any other contract, or for any other services? If so, state the amount, and when paid, and if the contract be in writing, produce it.

Ans. I believe no money has been paid F. E. Rives, except what was paid under the contract of June 14, 1845, and I know not exactly how much has been paid him under that ; but presume the president will give full information as to the dates and sums.

Questions by Mr. Sheffey, a Member of the Joint Committee.

Ques. 4. Since the cars have ceased to run on the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad, have not agents been permitted to travel on your road free of charge, who were engaged in soliciting travellers to go by the bay line?

Ans. I had heard of complaints; and, as a director, I made enquiry in relation thereto: I ascertained that the agent of the bay line, whose duty it was to issue tickets at Weldon, has been in the habit of passing over our road free of charge, once a week or fortnight, to settle with his company. But I cannot ascertain, nor do I believe that his duty or his practice has been, while making these trips, to solicit travel on the bay line.

So far as I can learn, all the solicitation used is used before the travellers leave Weldon-before they take tickets.

Ques. 5. Have not the agents who have been so acting, been permitted to buy tickets of the Petersburg railroad and to sell them in connexion with their own tickets, so as virtually to make “through tickets" between Weldon and Baltimore by way of the bay line?

Ans. I believe they have.

Ques. 6. Have not deductions on your regular fare on some occasions been allowed to agents engaged to procure travellers to go on the bay line, in the purchase of your tickets?

Ans. I do not believe the board of directors ever ordered such deduction, or was ever consulted in relation thereto. I understand from the president of this company that on a few occasions, under peculiar circumstances, which, I presume, he will explain in his answer to this question, a reduction such as is alluded to in the question, was made by his order. I did not know of it till long after it occurred; nor do I believe the other directors did. Ques. 7. Have

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in any case sold your tickets to any persons at rates lower than the regular rates of charge from Weldon to Petersburg ? If so, state what deductions were made.

Ans. My answer to the 6th question is an answer to this.

Ques. 8. Have you not endeavoured, since the cars ceased to run on the Portsmouth and Roanoke railroad, to keep up the competition between the James river and bay line and the railroad line between Petersburg and Washington; and have you in any way used your influence to induce the owners of the James river and bay boats to continue such competition; or have you in any way aided the owners of said boats to keep up their line of boats ?

Ans. So far as I know or believe no such endeavours have been made ; no such influence attempted to be exerted by the directors, or by the officers of this company, or any one of them, directly or indirectly ; nor have the owners of the James river and bay boats been aided by this company, or by its directors or officers in keeping up their line of boats.

Questions by the Counsel of the Memorialists R. A. Mayo and others.

Ques. 9. Does the Richmond, Fredericksburg and Potomac railroad company enjoy the same privilege of sending agents on the Petersburg railroad that the bay line enjoys? Do the agents of that company have and exercise the same privilege of purchasing that the bay company has ? Has the Petersburg railroad company offered to terminate the arrangement of sending agents and purchasing tickets as to both the Richmond, Fredericks

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