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i and also improving our naval defence, | mirching, and that care would be taken to " which he siated from his own knowledge return home before the last day of it was ex"to be very defective. While our danger pired. Allow, then, that the corps would, " was greater, and our resources also, than upon an average, bave ien miles to quarch, * at any former period, he complained that they would have four days, exclusive of Sun" our state of naval preparation was much day, to exercise, or do what is called duty “ lower. He declared, thar in this state- in, and, for ihese four days each man would * ment he was not in:fiue ced by the receive 14 shillings! Care would be taken, * slightest prejudice against any man. On undoubtedly, to bespeak son-shine weather, 65 the contrary, in the whole of his observa- otherwise the money might be all thrown “ tions he wished to keep alvof froin cvery away. It is clear, however, that the geurle“ description of asperity, which he thought man could not have so short a space of time 6 ought not upon any account ro be intro- in view : three weeks, at least, it is fair to “ duced in the course of thi, discussion. 1 presume, he intended to deseribe as a space “ This was not a rime for the operation for “ permanent duty;" and, in that case, ** of any party spirit."

his 300,0001. might suffice for 130,000 As to party spirit; whether there was men; but, let me ask any man, whether he any shown, in this debate, by any body else, understands any thing of military matters or whether this observation was at all called for not, if he would not rather, and much rather from Mr. Piti, and whether bis speech was too, see this sum of 300,0001 expended in intended to answer party views, are ques. The maintenance of 12 good battalioos of re. tions, upon which I sbail, probably, touch gular infantry, weil clothed, armed, accouhereafier; at present, I shall confine 'myself i Tred, and commanded ? for, such a force to the improvements, which the right hon. I could be maintained for a whole year upon gent. proposes to make in the volunteer sys. the money, which Mr. Pirt proposes to exiem, iaking them in the order, in which | pend upon 130,000 volunteers, in the course they lie before me.-FIRST; he proposes, of three weeks! When the volunteers are that, with a view of rendering the volun- qbus called out upon “ permanent duly" teers adequate to the object of their institu! There must take place a sort of drafting or lion, they should be encouraged to go, as volunteering in each corps; for, it seems, soon as possible, on permanent duty, tor the 1 none are so lo march but such as cho se; and, space of two or three weeks, always taking when they return to the corps again, they care to quarter each corps in the place most are, I suppose, like the select vessels among convenient to their native home; ind, in or the Methodists, to communieate their expeder to induce them to go opon 1bis perma. riences to the brethren! Whether these vent duly, he would give to each of them a experiences are to be received under the " small bounty," namely, seven shillings a operation of wartial law, or otherwise, tlie week, independently of the one shilling a gentleman did not state; but, if they are, day. What bounty he would give to the I should be glad to know, who will execute officers and non commssioned officers he that law; and, if they are not, I am still does not say; but, he insists, that about 2 or more anxious to know what means will be 300,0001. would be sufficient to defray the provided for the protection of persons and whole expense; so that, it is evident, that property, in and near the places where these he means to draw only a part of the volun- 1 small bounty" men will be quartered. teers out on' permanent duiy, for, if he were | And, who is to command the volunteering to draw out the 400,000 ihey would, accord volunteers ? Suppose only a third part of a ing to his plan, swallow op 280,000l. in one corps turns out as small bounty" men, is we-k, allowing not a farthing for officers, the commanding officer of the corps. lo tura non-commissioned officers, barracks, bag- out with them? And, if so, who is to comgage, or contingent expenses of any kind; / mand the men who remain in the parish ? and, the truth is, that the 300,0001. would Who shall say, 100, that a due portion not defray the expenses of 250,000 men for of officers and non-commissioned officers more than a week, because there must be will be ready to' march? And, if not, an allowance for the officers and non-com- | how is the deficiency to be supplied ! missioned officers; There must be baggage If the officers, who, in general, are mere and barrack expenses; and there must be chants, tradesmen, and farmers, cannot recontingent charges 10 no small amount, main from home three weeks at a time, are But, what could be done in the way of dis. I they to be cashiered, and is their place to be cipline, in the space of one week? There is supplied by journeymen and labourers ? no doubt but the days of this week would be- | And, lastly, when the “small bounty“ men gia with the first day of preparatiou for comc boue from their expedition, is it-likely that they will live in very great harmony liament may as well hold its tongue upon with that part of the corps who liave not left the subject, and leave ide corps and Their home? lo short, who, upon barely hearing | commillees to go on with the good work of these questions asked, has not already an. legislation, which, shauks, to Mr. Palt and swered, that the plan is utterly impractica the ministers, they have already so diligently ble; and, that the only good that could pos and successfully begun. If the regulations sibly arise from atiepung its execution, are not prescribed by the act, the act must would be to throw all the orps in the king. empower the magistrates to carry the rigua dom into ten times greaier confusion ihan lations of each corps, be they what they they already are, and shew us, at once. the may, into effect. But, let who will make incurable defects of the system? The effect the regulations, no man, it seems, is to be on the regular army must be dreadful bound by them, unless he chooses to subThe "smali bounty" inen, would, doubtless, scribe to them. And, how many men aro. be quartered, during their “ permanent there in this United Kingdom, who will voduty," where they would be liable to be fre- luntarily set their hands to a paper, which quently seen by the soldiers of the army. shall compel them to appear at a certain Indeed, the gentleman proposes to bring 80 place, to obey certain persons, and perforai or 100,000 of thein so near to the regular", certain acts, upon pain of instant arrest and as that the former may be asyisied in their imprisonment? Are there one hundred men, instrocoon by the regular officers in the se- out of ihree millions, who will do this? veral districis respectively. And, does Mr. Besides, did ever morial man before hear of Put bilik, that the small bountv" men, such a jumble of civil and military authowho, in addition to a soldier's pay will re rity? Who is to be the judge of the orience? ceive wherewith to get dead drunk three Is the offender to be arrested by a warrant days in a weck, and who will have linile or or an order? is lie to be sięzed by a serno control over them, does he think, that jeant or a constable? Where is he to be such mn, äressed in soldier's clothes and detained? ln te jail, or in a guard-house? calling themselves soldiers, does he really If the latter, suppose he attempts 10 escape? think that such men will afford an useful Can The persons who have charge of him example to the regular army? And does he shoot hiin? Is there any crime in rescuing hope, that the non-commissioned officers, 1 bin? What an endless source of broils, il or even the otficers, of that armiy will, en- / blood, of assaults, batteries and law-suits ! tirely escape the contagion, especially when What 66 glorious confusion" would reign . by another part of his plan, captains and from one cod to the other of the country! subalterns of the army are invited to seek These projects are to be received with great for promotion so the rank of field-officers by caution. Nothing is so dangerous, espe. paying beir court, not to their superiors in cially in times like the preselit, as that spisit the army, but to the officers and men of of innovation, that defiance of all usage and volunteer corps I----SecoNDLY; Mr. Pirt all experience, that eagerness to meet every recommends, in order to enforce a tendance emergency with some new invention, which, at drill, that, in each corps, a set of regu. I am truly sorry to say it, appears, of late, lations shall be subscribed by each member, constantly to pervade the mind of Mr. Pitt, and that these regulations should impose Has thus gentleman heard of no volonieer fines upon defaulters, and should render per- being imprisoned? Has he heard of any onc sons not attending at parade liable to arrest | being imprisoned and not rescued, by his and 'detention, until tried before a magis comradss? Does he think, that any roundtraie, who should bave the power of com-, house or jail would long contain a volunteer muting any fine for a short imprisonmeni of contined for military misbehaviour ? Does two or three days!!! Upon this part of his he in good trath innagine, that a young man, scheme Mr. Pilt observed that he was de or that any man not of base spirit or infacidedly against making any change in the mous character, would submit to be lodged system, unless such as was of absolute neces. | in the receptacle for thieves and other ignosity and that this was so, he said, would be mipious, offenders, merrly because be had denied by no map who, had witnessed the been absent from a parade without leave, or volunteer parades. Whether the change without sufficient cause? Dues be, indeed, bere proposed be of absolute necessity, or suppose, that a father will, on such an acnot, I shall not attempt to decide; but this count, quietly walk into jail in the presence I do know, that it never can be carried into of his children Or, that any man will, for execution, Ifoadłopled, in the act, it will, such a cause, submit to such disgrace in the of course, be general. The regulations will eyes of bis relations, his friends, or bis neighbe the same in every corps, or else, Par- | bours? And, if it be not an imprisoumeni in

a jail or some place other than military, what I enlist, their places stall be supplied by a has the civil imagistrate to do with the com fresh ballot; that, as vacancies occur in the mitment? If such a regulation were to pass militii, they should remain not filled up, into a law, one of iwo consequences would until that bo ly be reduced to its “old standresult from ii; either no volunteers would " ard;" that, in consequence of every such subscribe the regulation, and then it would vacancy, a man should be balloted for, but be nugatory, or, if generally signed, and that, instead of joining the militia, he sliould attempted to be enforced, it would produce join the army of reserye, in order to keep up continual riots and rescues, 'till, in a very short the means of recruiting from this latter body space of time, the magistracy and the laws into the regular army; "and thus," says would be trodden under foot. If, therefore, the he, “ as one body would be reduced, the volunteers cannot be induced to attend with | " other would be augmented," Very true; out such a regulation as this; if this be a just as one bottle is filled by the emptying measure of “ absolute necessity to the ex. i of another into it; but, most people will alistence of the volunteer system, that system low, that the liquor, at every remove, benever can be supported for another half | comes more fiat and worthless, and certain I year, without shaking to its cen re the civil am, that there is no military officer, who government of the country. “Man," he wuld not rather have one man, originally has very truly and very tritely observet, “is raised for the regular army, than three men, “ the creature of babit ;" and, let bim re who, through ihe hands of parisb officers or member, that, if he once destroys or consi- | dealer: in substitutes, have first reached the derably enfeebles the habitual reverence for, army of reserve, and have then, for ihe sake and obedience to, the laws, he will, in re- of a new bounty, and not tor the love of the ality, have gone very for towards subverting service, come into the regular army.the constitution, to uphold which must cer | But, b-fore I proceed any further, I cannot tainly be one of his principal objects. refrain from referring, for a moment, to the Having thus provided, as he seemed to think, | parliamentry debates in June last, upon the for the permanence and discipline of the vo- | subject of the army of reserve. On the first lunteers, Mr. Piti next directed his fostering | agita ing of that subject, Mr. Windham care towards the regular army, in whichi, made the speech, from which my motto is though directly in the teeth of his former taken, and every word of which should now calculations, opinions, and predictions, be be carefully attended 10. Mr. Pitt did nor, was obliged to confess recruiting was at a that day, speak at any length; but, he took stand. Still clinging, however, to bis vo- care to say, that he " completely differed lunteer system, though found to be so miser- " from almost the whole of Mr. Windham's ably deftciive, he would not allow, that it “ ideas." In the debate of the 23d of June, had contributed towards the impoverishing Mr. Elliot, who spoke before Mr. Pitt, exof the army, notwithsiandine the contrary pressed his opinion, that unless the militia had been proved, by argument, fifty times were reduced to the “old standard" the reover, and nowubstanding that argument uor gular army must remain in a state of impoany part of it had ever been attempted to be verishinent; and, during his speech, by a refuted. But, in spite of all his endeavours word from Mr. Windham, it appeared to preserve his consistency, without acknow that this was the opinion of both of them. ledging his error, he does allow, that, such It is best to quote the passage in the report of is the state ol the country, from some cause the debate. “ I am a friend to the principle or other, that the arıny cannot any longer be " of the militia, and am afraid, there is a kept up (not augmented, but kept up) by 1" shade of difference of opinion, upon this the ordinary means of recruiting, even in- " point, between me and my right hon. cluding all the aid, which it has received, “ friend; (Mr. Windham indicated that and which it is likely to receive, from the " there was none). I am glad that I do not inlistments made amongst ibe creatures, who “ differ from my right hon, friend. But, have, merely for the sake of money, became " though I am a friend to the general prinsubstitutes in the army of reserve. To pre “ciple of the militia, (certainly never vent the army, therefore, from wasting entire “ would have consented to increase it beyond Jy away, and yet not to give up any part of the “ its original number."* In the debate of volunteer corps, Mr. Pitt proposes, that the the 1st of May, 1802, Mr. Windham said, militia should be reduced! His project is that the militia ought to be kept at, if not this: that there shall be in constant exist- below, its “old establishment."-lo answer ence a body called the Army of Reserve; that, to Mr. Elliot, during the debate of the 230 from this body, men may at any time enlist into the regulars, and, as fast as they do so * See Register, Vol. IIl. p. 1832o.

of June, Mr. Pitt, after some sarcastic re- gulars; the nien who are disliked by their marks on the opinions of Mr. Elliot and Mr. officers; inen who are in debt, or have renWindham, which remarks appeared to give dered themselves suspected by their comgreat delight to the militia colonels; afierrades, or who cannot resist the temptation of extolling the virtues of that “constitutional | enjoring another week or two of delicious “ force" the militia, and reverting to the glori drunkenness. And this is the description of ous era when it was first established, said that persons who are lo fight the battles, tó de“ he was not a little surprised wben he heard fend the liberties, and io avenge the injuries “ it gravely asserted, that the existence of a of England ! Put, says Mr. Pilt, what will “ large millia force was incompat:ble with prevent ihe creditable youth of the country " the existence of a large regular army; that from entering into the army of reserve; or “it being adnited, íhat a Militia of 30,000 into the regular army, if they like it bet“ was good in its kind, it must be allowed, I ter? let him look at the army of reserve, and " that, under the present circumstances, we see if the creditable youth of the country “ wanted a much larger number.” And, this have entered it. No; the high bounties is the persoo, who now proposes to reduce have degraded the profession of a soldier, the militia to this very number of 30,000 which, God kvows, was never much remen! Daght we not, another time, to hesi. spected in this shop-keeping country. It is tate, before we are led into measures at ile | now no longer a profession; it is a mere suggestion of this gentleman ? The graduni trade; it is talked of as a trade; and, acreduction of the militia, leaving the army | cordingly, it offers no allorements but the of reserve out of the question, is a use pro bare money; parodying what Swift says of position; bu:, it is well known, and Mr. Pitt the law, “ it is now so much blood for 60 ought publickly to have acknowledged, that " much money, and so much money for so it is a proposition, which was long ago w much blood." The consequences are made by Mr. Windham. However, the what we see, and they are just such as it great and intuitive mind of Mr. Pitt, over was natural to expect, from commiiting the which there hung such a thick cloud on the formation and supporting of an army to the 23d of June last, has now discovered, not hands of tax-grinders and stock calculators. only " that a large mililja force is incompa- | -- As to the project for “ limiting the bounty

tible with a large regular army,” but that it is " to be given to substitutes," and for pre* incompatible with a small regular army; and, venting its being so high as the bounty for therefore, be wishes to reduce it; but here the regular armiy, ir strikes one as something again the good of his project is over-balanced so much like Robespierre's marimum, that by the evil. This reduction is not to afford to attempt to reason upon it would be perany relief to the parishes; it is not to tend fectly useless. This, however, may be said, to re-open the field for recruiting by dimi- without hearing the project in detail, that nishing the call for, and, of course, the the bounty for the regular ariny must be price of, substitutes ; the same number of higher than the average of the army of remen are still to be balloted for, the burden serve bounty now is, or, the persons ballotupon the persons pot entitled to volunteer ed must be compelled to serve in person. exemptions is to be increased, and the dit- Which of these provisions Mr. Piit may ficulties of recruitiog in the regular, and the choose is not, perhaps, very certain ; but, only proper way must now be regarded, if this | without one or the other of them, the pr). project be adopted, as being completely cutject must fall to the ground. The conoff for the whole daration of the war. fining of r cruiting parties to particular disWhat an enormous expense will this pre- tricts would have no good effect;' and the posterous project, if it become a law, entail making of recruiting officers stationary in upon the nation? What an intolerable bur these districts would produce great injury to, den opon the persons exposed to the ballor ? the recruiting service, Novelty, which is And, of what sort of men will the regular I pleasant in every thing else, is not less so in army, thus recruited, consist? What does | matters of this kind; and, before Mr. Pitt Mr. Pittibiok can be done with the miserable again states, that " recruits would be more ditch water-like stuff that will be poured into “ easily obtained, through the connexion the regular army through the army of re " that would grow up between the people serve, into which they have been led purely " and the recruiting officers," let him conby a hankering after those beasily enjoyments, sult the returns that have been made, upon which are to be procured only by money. And, the recruiting service, and see whether such let it be remembered, too, that, it will be a connexion has not invariably proved an the worst, and not tře best part, of the ar obstacle in the way of success. In short, my of reserve, that will enter into the re- his notions upon this subject are completely

at variance with all the maxims of the army, 1 ric sentimen:s! What a disinterested man anaxims which have grown, not out of a , he is! he scorns all party spirit, and thinks spirit for projecting, but out of long obser- | about nothing but saving us froin the hands vation and experience. Before I dismiss this of those hard-hearted ruffians, who have subject entirely, I cannot forbear to say a vowed our destruction ! Norbing, it must word or two upon the manner in which Mr. I be confessed, is better calculated to take, Pitt introduced what he had to say, in both with the great and little vulgar, than the debates, upon the subject of the volunteer line of conduct pursued by Mr. Pist; but, system, and matters connected therewith. persons who are not to be caught with chaff He acknowledges the many and great deal may be permitted to ask, whether he did fects of the system ; but, he will not hear a not, so long as five months agin, give, as a word of doing it away. "No," says he, toast amongst his Cockney friends, the “ it is now too late to talk of thai; tiere " Volunteers, and a specdy meeting with " is not time to supply the place of the vo. “ Buonaparté upon our own shores?" “ lunteer system; we must rely upon that, Meaning, thereby, that he wished the enemy “ or upon nothing, and, therefore, all that re might land, and that he might be encoun-, “ mains for us to do, is to determine how | tered, five months ago, by the very troops, • we can best improve it, it being now er- which he declares to be 'rom “ extremely " tremely inadequate to its' objeci." This 1 " inadequate to thcir object!” And, one want of time is, with Mr. Pirt, a standing I might, too, be permitted to ask Mr. Pitt, argument for the adoption of any thing that whether, amongst the means of rational dehe proposes, relative to the defence of the fence, a wise and vigorous ministry ought country. The army of reserve might not, not to be reckoned, as essential; and, if so, he said, be the best measure that could be one might further ask him, what object he devised ; but, there was no time to think of can have in view by using all his influence any other; the Volunteer system, as it now for the purpose of prolonging the duration, stands, was not so good as it might have without strengthening the hands, of the present been; but there was no time to make it | ministry, whom both b: and his friends have better : the danger pressed, the enemy was represented, and are continually repreat hand; and, as he sarcastically told Mr. senting, as incapable of conducting the afElliot, on the 23d of June, “unless he could fairs of the nation at any time whatever? obtain a cartel from Buonaparté to stop | Let us have an answer to these questions, " till we had raised a regular army, his gb before we hear any more of the patriotic con66 jection to the balloted force would be of duct of Mr. Pilt. Either the ministry ought “ no avail.” This is just bis language now. to have his support, or they ought not. If He tells us that the enemy may come in a the first, why does he not support them? week, or a fortnight; and that, therefore, Why does he not give them real support, there is no time to think about obtaining and not preface every speech, in which he another sort of force in the place of the vo defends them, with hints that this is not Tunteers. Thus we are always in a hurry; “ the proper time for inquiring into their always acting upon the spur of the moment; - conduct?" If the second, why does he always adopting measures under the impres- not openly and manfully oppose them? One sion of immediate danger. Upon this same line or the other it must be his duty to take. principle Mr. Pitt deprecated all inquiry into Decidedly one or the other. Any ihing bethe past conduct of ministers relative to the Iween; any thing that shall prop up, withdefence of the country. We are not to ask out supporting; that shall hold in check, even in which way our means have hitherto without opposing, must be injurious to the been employed. We are not to inquire country, and must, by every man of sense what the ministers have done with the mil. and spirit, be regarded, not only as unpatrie lions that they have taken froin us for our lotic and undignified, but selfish and mean defence : no, we are to carry them more, in the extreme. aud ask no questions. « The defence of " the country ought to occupy every man's The 11th Number of COBBeTT'PARLI« attention : it is quite enough to fill the AMENTARY DEBATES, containing an accu« mind of any man, without mixiog with rate Report of the interesting Debate on “ it any inquiries as to the state of politics, his Majesty's Indisposition, is ready for deli“ or the conduct of ministers.” Oh! ex. very. Complete sets of the work may be had claim the trembling Cockneys, what patrio- of the Publishers of the Register.


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