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" Commons, which was previously “ be transmitted to Sir T. Beevor and “ strong, has increased tenfold. The“ his co-trustees. I would further beg “ votes of the House make it evident" to suggest, that the trustees should * that no efficient relief is likely to be “ advertise their readiness to undertake " afforded; but that the productive“ the ofhce, and to become responsible " classes of the nation will be left to “ that the subscriptions should be re" drag on under their load, until the “ turned in case the attempt were not " time arrives (to which every good“ persevered in to completion. “man, and real lover of his country, " I have no hesitation in saying, that “ must look forward with dread) when, “ if the freehold of some small borough “probably, a convulsive effort of the “ could be purchased, it would be by far “ sufferers will relieve them from their " the best course; and would remove one " burdens.
strong objection which I have heard “ Believing, as I do with a perfect“ raised to any attempt being made this “ conviction, that the plans you have session ; viz., that in the event of a “ proposed for our relief, would, if " dissolution of the Parliament, all " adopted, be effectual, I shall cordially " the money would be thrown away “ join in the attempt to place you" if expended in simply obtaining " where, alone, you will have any a seat. I would recommend the “ chance of procuring their adoption. "absolute purchase of the frechold of a
" I am one of those who owe to your “ borough; to be held in trust for the “advice, if not my preservation from“ purpose of securing to you a seat in “ruin, at least the means of avoiding “ Parliament, until such a reform had “ much loss in the management of my been obtained, as should deprive you “affairs, during the progress of those “ and all others of the opportunity of " disastrous fluctuations to which all“ getting into the House of Commons “persons, engaged in manufactures and" by any other means than those which “ irade, have been exposed. I have already “ are só ably described in your letter to " acknowledged my obligations to you: "the Marquis of Blandford, in the Re“ I have great pleasure in repeating the “ gister of the 16th July, 1829. That " acknowledgment here ; and in taking “ object once obtained through your " as a guide for my subscription that “ instrumentality, a grateful public
sum which you state would secure “ would know what to do with the “ your election, if given by each of those“ freehold estate. “ persons who have made a similar ac
“ I am, dear Sir, “knowledgment to that which I have
“ with esteem and respect, “just been making. I shall remit “ twenty pounds to Sir Thomas Beevor
“ your faithful and obedient servant, as soon as I learn that your plans are
“WM. BAKER, Jun." “arranged. I wish it were in my power " to give more ; but even this sum, " when measured by the state of my “ business, is much more than I can " afford.
EARL OF RADNOR'S SPEECH. “ With respect to the plan of raising " the money, I would, with deference I take it, of course, from the pub" to your better judgment, beg to re- lished reports. It was delivered in the “peat the suggestion I have before (lebate on Earl STAN OPE's motion for " made ; viz., that Sir T. Beevor and inquiring into the causes of the dis“ four or five others of your friends (the tress, which debate took place on " higher their rank the better) should Thursday last. I insert it, because it “ be trustees and treasurers; and that truly describes the state of feeling of the "in each town there should be a local different classes in the agricultural part " committee for collecting subscrip- of the country; and it is from feeling " tions, which, when collected, should that men come to action.
The Earl of Radnor expressed his surprise I been manufactured since the conclusion of the at the speeches of the noile Viscount (Lord war. If it could be shown that ihe prices had GODERICII) who had followed the noble mover, been uniformly decreasing, that argument and of the nobile Duke at the head of his Ma- would be intelligible ; but, on reading the jesty's Government; and his still greater statement of prices, it appeared that they surprise at the conclusions to which they had were sometimes up and sometimes down, so arrived. The noble Duke bad begun his that the argument had no bearing at all upon speech in a spirit not called for by any thing the question. It was a good argument, howwhich had occurred. He had lost his temper; ever, in favour of those who wished for full and charged the noble Earl, and the noble and correct information as to the cause of all Dukė, who had spoken so ably on the ques- this. But the noble Dake also took a techni. tion, with persouality; although there was cal objection to his noble Friend's motion. nothing whatever in the speeches of the noble He objected to it, because bis poble Friend had, Earl and the noble Duke tio justify the accusa- very wisely in his (Lord Radnor's) opinion, tion. As to the general tenor of the noble abstained from stating the precise object which Duke's speech, nothing could be more in fa. the committee was to have in view. The state vour of the motion, except the tenor of the of the country was a sufficient ground for the speech of the noble Viscount. The noble inquiry, and the proper remedy for that state Duke not only dropped the word “ inquiry” ought to be the result of the investigation. several times in the course of his speech, but. But it was of all things most astonishing 10 actually concluded his speech by urging their hear the noble Duke argue this motion, when Lordships to investigate and inquire. No their Lordships recollected that not ten days doubt every noble Lord had inquired, and ago a member of his Majesty's Government would inquire, in bis own neighbourhood. But came to the House to propose that the afthe question was, whether they should not in- fairs of the East India Company should be require in their capacity as Peers of Parliament ferred to the consideration of a Select Com-as a House of Lords, for the sake of the mittee. His Majesty's Government, baving no country at large. The noble Earl who made project of their own on the subject, wished to the motion did not call upon their Lordships go into a comunittee of their lordships to learn to inquire, in their persoval and individual what was their lesson, and to ascertain what character, but he called upon Parliament to was their duty. To do thathowever, was to inquire, that they might know the facis in abandon the functions of Government, and to their legislative capacity. He was astovished throw the responsibility ou Parliament-unthat the nolle Duke, in his position as First doubtedly a most improper proceeding. The Lord of the Treasury, having, as it appeared, speech of the poble Viscount who spoke second a doubt on his mind whether the country in the debate was, in its tendency, most was in a state of distress, or not, did not wish favourable to bis noble Friend's motiou ; but for an inquiry, were it only to inform bim- the conclusion of it was astonishing. Iudeed, self upon the subject, in order that he might the speech itself was astonisbing too. On the know what measures to recommend to his first day of the session, the noble Viscount had Majesty to propose to Parliament. The noble objecteil to all inquiry, because it was a delu. Duke oughi to endeavour to ascertain whether sion to believe that any relief could be afdistress existed or not, to get clear of the doubt forded. Now he bad made a speech of an by wbich he was agiiated on the subject hour loug to show, not only that it was no Sometimes the noble Duke admitted the dis. delusion, but that he had projects, ready cut tress; then again he denied it, urging the aud dried, to relieve the distress. He gave increase of buildings, and that agricultural great credit to the noble Viscount for the produce, for instance timber (not frequentiy, means which he recommended. But why did by-the-bye, classed with agricultural pro- not the noble Viscount resort to those means dúce), liad not fallen in price. Now the fact when he was in office? The same taxes was that timber bad fallen in price. The do. which he had that night proposed to take ble Duke said that meat had not fallen in off might have been taken off with great price. If he would look at his butcher's bilis, advantage when the noble Viscount was in unless he had been greatly imposed upon, he office; and it was to be regretted that would find that meat had fallen from ten- such an alleviation of the pressure on the pence-balspenny to seven-pence a pound. people did not at that time occur to the noble Cheese bad lailen cent. per cent. Grazing Viscount. The noble Viscount said that he did cattle had fallen greatly in price, there being out like to prophesy much, hecause he did not no adequate sale for ihem in Smithfield Mar. wish to propbesy ill; yet, surely, the nuble ket. Under all these circumstances, the ayri. Viscount bad prophesieel ill, w ben ne said it cultural interest nad a riglit to cry out. The was a delusion to suppose that the existing diso noble Duke's mind was really so wasering, tress could be relieved. It was true that the that their Lord bips ought to inquire, for the prophecies of the noble Viscount were not alpurpose of communicating information to his ways verified by the event. Sume years ago Majesty's ministers. The manufacturers, the be bad declared that the prosperity of the noble Duke acknowledger, were in some dis- country was founded on a solid basis-a declatress ; but he endeavoured to account for that ration which undoubtedly bad been proved in. distress by the statement lhat more goods bad accurate, lu the year 1824 the Bublé Viscount
told the other House of Parliament “ that the was not for doing what every body said ought wuntry was in a state of cheerful prosperity, vot to have been done-he meant the meawith an increasing revenue, decreasiug taxa. sure for putting an end to rags; but, when tion, and a debt in a course of gradual and this measure was adopted, there were other certain reduction;" and that this was all measures that ought also to have been adopt. " the result of sound policy and considerate ed at the same time to prevent the conselegislation." There was a great deal more quence of putting an end to the paper money. poetical description of the prosperity of the He would not then discuss those other meacountry; and one part of it touched him (Lord sures; but he thought their Lordships would Radnor) sensibly; he meant that in which the act wisely in going into a Committee to innohle Viscount had claimed for Parliament, quire into what measures might yet be taken. “the merit of having brought the country to Nobody now doubted the distress; the noble its existing state of coutent and prosperity ;" Duke and his colleagues did not doubt the and contradicted the assertion of those who distress; and as they had already changed had said " that it was utterly impossible for it their opinions on some most important points, to extricate the kingdom from the condition he did not doubt that ere the close of the Sesa of distress and tlepression in which it had re- sion they would yet see greater changes even cently been placed ;" and yet the other night than before in their opinions. He could bear the noble Viscount declared that it was all de witness that the distress in that part of the lusion to suppose that any relief could be country where he acted as a Magistrate was afforded to the present distress. The noble very severe, so severe as to be indescribable. Viscount, in his speech of 1824,went on to say, But there was something beyond the pecu** Parliament, the true source of such general niary distress which demanded their Lord, bappiness, may enjoy the proud, the delight- ships' attention; out of that distress there had fui satissaction, of looking round upon the face arisen a most acrimonious and hostile feeling of a joyous country, smiling in plenty, and [hear, hear !]—a feeling which he was afraid animated”—and then came a sublime passage was increasing, and threatening destruction which he (Lord Raduor) confessed he did not to society [hear, hear, hear!). Only a few quite comprehend—“ with what I hope to years ago there was a social intercourse see-unrestricted industry, content, comfort, between all the different classes in the counprosperity, and order, hand-in-hand, dispense, try; it extended downwards from the farmer from the ancient portals of a Constitutional through the labourer, and upwards through Mouarchy, their inestimable blessings amouy the landowner to the Peers, and the highest a bappy, united, and, let it never be forgotten, person in the realm. At present this connec. a grateful people." The next year the noble tion was entirely destroyed, and there was Viscount weut still further, he declared “that nothing but dissatisfaction. He did not blame he was of opinion that if, upon a fair review any man in particular, but he would assert of our situatioo, there should appear to be that this was the natural result of legislative bothing hollow in its foundation, artificial io measures. The labourer was full of animo. its superstructure, or flimsy in its general re-sity against the farmer, both as a farmer and salt, ibey might safely venture to coutemplate, as an overseer, because he thought the farmer wi:h intuitive admiration, the harmony of its was grinding him down to the lowest possible proportions, and the solidity of its basis." pittance. The farmer was, himself, pressed Now that “ solidity" which the noble Viscountdown by distress ; and instead of keeping his talked of in 1825 was precisely the paper cur. labourers on his farm as he formerly did, rency which the noble Viscount had the other whether he had always employment for them Evening called “ filthy rags."
or not, he sent them away as soon as he had Viscount GODERICH declared that he had got his work done in the most slovenly way never used such an expression; although in possible. He had lately talked a great deal several of the Newspapers he had seen it at with an opulent yeoman of the Weald of Kent tributed to him.
where the distress was as great as any where, The Earl of RADNOR observed, that with and this gentleman had told him that in Tespect to the passages which he had quoted one parish, the name of wbich he (Lord Radfrom the noble Viscount's speeches in 1824 nor) did not recollect, there were no less avd 1825, be had refreshed his memory by a than thirty-one single men out of employ• reference to the recorded reports of those ment, which was a thing never before speeches; but he had not had an opportunity heard of. The labourers every where felt of doing so with reference to the last-men- sore that they got no more than would tiuped expression. He would not positively just keep soul and body together, and more a sert that the noble Viscount had used that than this they could not have, as they were expression; but unless bis memory greatly I paid out of the resources of others. The ir. failed bim be believed that he had done so. dustrious man was grieved that his situatiou The one-pouod notes were the solid basis of was so bad. Then again it was the practice the prosperity of the country, on which the to send the men round to the farmers to emDoble Viscount the Chancellor of the Exche. ploy them; and the farmer being obliged 10 quer congratulated the country. The solid employ them whether he wanted them or not, basis of our prosperity was putting forth filthy had his feelings embittered by that circunrags. What he blamed the noble Duke for stance. The farmers were, of course, anxious
to support their situation, and they were an. This is worth volumes upon volumes of noyed by their situation. It had been well Joose and indefinite representation; but stated by the noble Earl, that these states of distress had frequently occurred, and every this is the very thing that will not be time they had occurrel, they had attacked a listened to. In short, the prayers are weaker part of the Constitution ; but it had all in vain. No change can take place not also been remarked that every time they without the whole change. To repeal had occurred, attempts had been made to remedy the evil, by sending out the dirty any one considerable tax would blow up (hear, bear) Exebequer-bills or Bank-notes, the whole system : so that, to pray for or some other species of paper money had al- this is, in fact, to pray for that blowing ways been issued, so that the measures taken to remedy the evil , were precisely those which will always keep them as long as they
Men who have valuable things, they were all then deprecating. Besides the pecuniary distress then, there was also the can; those who have them, in this coun. feeling of acrimony he had alluded to, and try, have the power to keep them at both the pecuniary distress and the were on the increase. The landlord, too, had present; they can keep them, and they incumbrances; and, anxious to keep the en
will do it to the last possible inoment. gagements he had made, he pressed bis The paper people and little-shilling renants ; the tenants were angry, and thus people are defeated, at any rate. That feelings of ill-will went through all classes, point is settled. All men now agree, and were likely to extend and be strengthened, that poor Mr. Western and his old Into these circumstrnces it was their Lordships' duty to inquire. He would not refer to the re
friend Locke are worsted. Western medies proposed; he would only say, that was defeated, and heard his doctrines issuing bank-notes, altering
the standard, or laughed at by his own county: he had changing the standard from gold to silver, all of which had been suggested,
and all of which got together sensible men instead of were of that same species of tampering with calves. And, as to his coadjutor, Pare the currency which bad already caused all son Crurwell, he appears to be downthe evils. All our prescut miseries were the right mad. This has been a curious consequences of changes in the currency. strife: Mr. Artwood, Crutwell, the His noble Friend had said, that tamperiog with the currency was the cause of the evil; house of Western and Locke (this last but he believed bis noble Friend was officially is a regular firm), and Mr. Taylor of connected with the Government-was the Bakewell; these threatening the Duke, anthor at least of those confidential commu- if he did not give up the bill; and I nications of which they had heard that night --when that original sin was committed. By very politely requesting him not to do tampering with the currency we had caused it. He, like a brave and wise man, as all the evils, and they never would be cured he is, listened to me ; and now, if he by further tampering with the same extensive would but listen to me, and take off all and important instrument. To regulate the currency was the highest prerogative of the the taxes, except fifteen millions a year, Crown, and he hoped that the ministers would he would silence all complaints for an support this part of the prerogative, and age at least. maintain the metallic standard. It was that which gave the labourer security for his wages it was that which gave the rich man a certainty that his property would be safe; and as it affected all the relations of property in the
COBBETT-LECTURES. couutry, he trusted that never again would the currency be tampered with. The noble
I Have appointed to be at Bury St. Lord concluded by declaring that he would Edmund's on Monday night, the 8th of give his cordial support to the motion of the noble Earl.
March, and to lecture there on the
Norwich on the Friday and Saturday;
to go thence to Bungay, thence to Eye, There have been held meetings in and thence to Ipswich, at times to be several places, each of great importance, appointed when I arrive at Norwich. particularly at MANCHESTER, where the petitioners pray for a reduction of taxes
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Herald. Several lords had just presenteil petitions complaining of distress, and
praying for a repeal of taxes. You had } teo
been pressed for an answer to these complaints and these prayers, and your ansiver, as reported, was as follows:
“ The Duke of WesLINGTON : My “ There can be no excuse for keeping up a Lords, I beg to assure the noble Lord, greater force now, than was kept up after “ and the House will, I think, accord " the American war. If we keep up a great with what I say, that his Majesty's “ force still, what shall we have gained by “this peace? And how are we to be able
“ Government are disposed to afford “ever to go to war again; and yet, war will every information in their power on the “ becoine necessary; for, the other powers, subject alluded to, and that they are "having no longer any need of our fleets, and
disposed to afford relief, the estimates " we having no more subsidies to give, will not be very desirous of leaving us absolute
" which have been brought forward in masters of all the colonies and commerce “ another place testify. Those estimates of the world. Yet, if this Debt and these ex. “ have been considerably diminished in
penses remain, we have SEEN OUR LAST“ the present session of Parliament, " WAR.”—Register, 16th April, 1814.
compared with preceding sessions. “If the tares be not to be reduced to what “ So also were they greatly diminished " they were before the war; if our conquests the last session, in comparison with « be to be made the pretext for keeping up “ taxes to an amount of more than about“ others. My Lords, with respect to “twenty millions, this nation will be ulterly“ diminishing the expenditure, all that " ruined by these conquests, which, after having “ I can say on the subject is, that every “ been an excuse for ruining the people will « thing which his Majesty's Ministers "be taken from us at last for want of our “having the means of defending them."-" could do to reduce the expenses, conREGISTER, 23rd APRIL, 1814.
“ sistently with the safety and honour “ of the country, has been done. No ex
penses exist, my Lords, that are not
“absolutely necessary for maintaining the DUKE OF WELLINGTON.
“ interests and honour of the country,
“ extended as those interests are to all On the Cost of our “ Conquests." " parts of the globe. Although it is perBarn. Elm Farm, 71h March, 1830.
fectly true that this is an island, and
“ only forms a very small portion of the MY LORD Duke,
“ globe, yet the interests of the country I have read with great interest your extend to all parts of the world, and speech of the 4th instant, relative to the “ must be maintained at the expense of impossibility of making further reduc- “ the country. (Hear.) There are only tions, and relative to the cost of main- " 19,000,000l. of expenditure susceplaining our conquests. These are most “ tible of reduction, and within the last iinportant matters. The fate of millions“ two years, 2,000,0001. on this particuof men ; the fate of an ancient common- " lar part of the expenditure, have been wealth, together with its kingly Govern- “ actually saved. There are other parts ment, are involved in the questions ; “ of the expenditure which cannot be which questions I shall, therefore, dis- « touched. I do maintain, my Lords, cuss fully before I have done with them; “ that Government have done all in and, according to my usual practice, 1. their power in reducing the expenses shall first of all insert your speech as I of the country. With respect to the mifind it reported in the newspapers. 1“ litary force, every thing to diminish it take this report from the Morning' had been accomplished. The number